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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address

Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37437 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:45 pm to
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How is it not?



Because zealotry is the pursuit of, as you mention. Not the belief in. Believing in things is not zealotry. Speaking of things is not zealotry. All Butker did was stand up and profess his beliefs, nothing more.

Lighting yourself on fire is zealotry. Killing people for your beliefs is zealotry. Blowing up buildings is zealotry.

Otherwise, your definition of religion would mean that zealotry is the belief in the doctrine of the faith. Of any faith. And that non-zealotry, or what you would deem acceptable religious belief, is understanding doctrine and then compromising on that doctrine. That belief, and doctrine, are relative. And heck, that is a different conversation.

To call him, and everyone else, meaning Christians who believe what he believes, zealots, is absolutely asinine. Are you really ready to call pro-life people zealots? And, fwiw, not every person who is pro-life is super religious.

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Nope. Like I said, you did a good job of clearing that up already.


I cleared it up, but it didn't prove to you that he isn't comparing IVF to surrogacy as the same thing, as the same level of disorder, severity or problem? Or that these things are more complicated than "I don't support birthing a life?" It didn't change your approach to zealotry?

I mean, I hope, but maybe I didn't.
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