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re: 10 Total Baseball Commits for 24&25 seasons from Louisiana.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:27 pm to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:27 pm to Tiger Ryno
I agree that schools want a freshman who can come in and make an impact but that player still has to continue to grow. Few guys are sitting three years to start but guys have to continue to develop.
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:05 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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Didn’t the use of tops end in the 2000s? I may be wrong.
No, at least not in equivalency sports (i.e. baseball, where players can be awarded partial scholarships).
In headcount sports (football/basketball) I believe it’s a bit more convoluted and gets into recruited vs. non-recruited players. Would have to dig it out of the D1 manual.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:20 pm to 304tiger
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it seems like players from northern states bust more often than other locations. The data may not support that
No comprehensive data on hand. Just a smattering of success examples from distant states other than FL/CA.
DJ LeMahieu - MI
Papierski - IL
Lange - MO
Gausman - CO
Fraley - MD
Bregman - NM
FTR, Josh Stevenson is having an ok season at tOSU and Mitchell Sandford is having a great season at UNO. Realize it's UNO but how many do we have here that would do better than he's doing there?
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:27 pm to Sarge
i have no issue with it. tho i do think there are a few in-state kids that usually would get offers. It's a new era of recruiting, tho
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:00 pm to Lester Earl
Is it really new California is a baseball factory? 
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:10 pm to Bayou
I believe the game announcers mentioned the other day that more Cali players want to come to the SEC.
I'm good with taking the best that Cali has to offer.
I'm good with taking the best that Cali has to offer.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:30 pm to CBP3110
quote:not sure why you’re getting downvoted but Cobb county in GA is as good as gets when it comes to baseball talent.
And Georgia. They have some of the top club teams in the US
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:52 pm to Sarge
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Why so heavy in Cali?
Great quality players in large quantities. Baseball is king in California. People seem to forget how big of a state California is.
38 million. It’s #1 by 10 million people. You’re gonna get plenty of CA guys. Get used to it.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:00 am to Sarge
LA has picked up but historically has not had great baseball.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:04 am to Tiger Ryno
Seems like Paul once took some Louisiana kids who were not the best players in our state but were good kids from nice families. I don’t think the expectation was ever there for these young men to be future stars as much as having a connection to money. Some of the kids who left the LSU program to lesser programs made little impact at there new schools. I think this has ended with Jay and frankly all it did was make people happy initially that their children signed with LSU but the false illusions caused heart ache and pain when their kids seldom played or worse did play and were ridiculed here on the rant.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:07 am to Lester Earl
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i do think there are a few in-state kids that usually would get offers. It's a new era of recruiting, tho
Imo, one of the reasons it makes sense to deemphasize those marginal in-state guys is that, with the portal, you can always watch them, and if they develop snap them up. Most will want to come back to LSU.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:17 am to 304tiger
quote:you just have a recency bias of Kling struggling this year because would you call these guys bust from northern states/countries that made it to LSU campus over the years?
This is just my opinion, but for some reason it seems like players from northern states bust more often than other locations. The data may not support that, but it just seems that way… take Kling for instance.
Brian Wilson - New Hampshire
Jake Fraley - Delaware
Anthony Ranaudo - New Jersey
Mike Koerner - NJ
Ray Wright- Maryland
DJ LeMahieu - Michigan
Ivan Naccarauta - Canada
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:19 am to LSUcajun77
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Yea it’s making the odds of my son playing for LSU less and less. He’s one, but he’s throwing hard from the left side. Some control issues, but I plan on fixing that.
Need to work on his breaking ball in the next couple years. Class of 2041!
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:51 am to PP7 for heisman
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The real problem is these guys tend to take 3-5 years to make a real impact.
Not always. I can list numerous non-mlb prospects (out of HS) that played and contributed quickly:
Mason Katz
Antoine Duplantis
Mikie Mahtook
Matty Ott
Mark Laird
Andrew Stevenson
Zach Watson
Josh Smith
Austin Nola
All of these guys are Louisiana born and contributed in their freshman and/or sophomore years. None of these guys (to my knowledge) were real MLB risks coming out of HS either. These were "under the radar" guys that might not get a spot in a Jay Johnson class. Instead of taking Zach Watson, we will take some kid from Kansas.
I am not saying that we shouldn't take national prospects either, I am saying though that there are good college ball players in this state and we should be filling out the bottom of our class with these guys.
The other issue is the "Beth Torina" issue and I am speculating here because I don't know that its true for Jay at this point BUT it seems like the national recruits get more a shot a playing than the under the radar guys. Brady Neal is a great example. Its clear to everyone that Milazzo is the better catcher but Neal still plays as much, if not more than Milazzo when healthy. I get that Neal has a higher ceiling but he is not there yet. Is the decision to play him coming from the fact that Jay wants to be able to show the next national recruit that they will play if they come to BR? In the outfield, there is zero reason the Zeb Ruddell shouldn't have gotten at least a crack at one of the spots. It just seems like the higher recruited guys have a longer leash than the local, lesser recruited guys.
In the same vein, Jake Brown started opening day and Josh Pearson has gotten every opportunity despite being average so maybe I am being overly sensitive to that point. But it is something that I have noticed.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:56 am to Penrod
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with the portal, you can always watch them, and if they develop snap them up
Which LA guy went elsewhere and then transferred to us after success elsewhere? I am not saying that its not possible, but I am saying that Jay has not shown a specific interest in Louisiana guys in the portal like CMM and CBK have.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:39 am to Tiger Ryno
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The old model is dead. It ain't coming back. Players won't be signed to be developed as starters by their 3rd year. The big schools want immediate impact players only
This. And its not just for baseball. If a guy cant come in and start right away, he's better off going to a smaller school, getting game action, and then transferring up later. Nobody gets better by sitting on the bench.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:54 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Which LA guy went elsewhere and then transferred to us after success elsewhere? I am not saying that its not possible, but I am saying that Jay has not shown a specific interest in Louisiana guys in the portal like CMM and CBK have.
Tyler McManus, Jack Merrifield, Brayden Jobert, Trey Schaffer, Kade Woods are all guys from Louisiana that Jay took in the portal while at LSU. Blaise Priester is committed to come back to LSU next season.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:01 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Brady Neal is a great example. Its clear to everyone that Milazzo is the better catcher but Neal still plays as much, if not more than Milazzo when healthy. I get that Neal has a higher ceiling but he is not there yet.
You answered your own question here. Neal has the higher ceiling so he is playing to try to gain in game experience to hopefully reach the potential and take the team to the next level. I do agree that the experiment may have went on a bit longer than it should have before getting Milazzo in more often, but even Milazzo is not performing at a really high level so why not continue to see if it all clicks for Neal.
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In the outfield, there is zero reason the Zeb Ruddell shouldn't have gotten at least a crack at one of the spots. It just seems like the higher recruited guys have a longer leash than the local, lesser recruited guys.
There is a 47% K rate in spring scrimmages leading into the season reason why Ruddell didn't get more opportunities. He was also 3-28 in the spring scrimmages. That doesn't really scream he needs opportunities over guys who are getting the playing time.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:51 am to saltytiger2
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:55 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Those are some wild claims lol
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