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The Tea Party Movement Is Dead
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:49 pm
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Yesterday’s announcement of the abrupt closure and dissolution of FreedomWorks by its board of directors is the closest thing we will get to a formal date of death for the Tea Party movement, which in truth has been dead since Donald Trump descended the escalator at Trump Tower in June 2015. Trump did for the Republican establishment what it couldn’t do on its own in killing the Tea Party and its demands for small, constitutional government.
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Luke Mullins of Politico talked to people involved with FreedomWorks, including the group’s president, Adam Brandon, who were blunt that “the decision to shut down was driven by the ideological upheaval of the Trump era”:
After Trump took control of the conservative movement, Brandon said, a “huge gap” opened up between the libertarian principles of FreedomWorks leadership and the MAGA-style populism of its members. FreedomWorks leaders, for example, still believed in free trade, small government and a robust merit-based immigration system. Increasingly, however, those positions clashed with a Trump-aligned membership who called for tariffs on imported goods and a wall to keep immigrants out but were willing, in Brandon’s view, to remain silent as Trump’s administration added $8 trillion to the national debt…
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:50 pm to Lou Pai
To reference one William Strannix, a movement is a movement because it will only pick up and go so far. A revolution will come back around and hit you in the face.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:55 pm to Lou Pai
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however, those positions clashed with a Trump-aligned membership who called for tariffs on imported goods and a wall to keep immigrants out but were willing, in Brandon’s view, to remain silent as Trump’s administration added $8 trillion to the national debt…
Both sides racing to send us over the fiscal cliff
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:59 pm to Lou Pai
Their message resonated, and they gained 65 seats in the 2010 midterms.
They then gathered, and within three weeks they agreed to abandon that message. You need to ask yourself why, because that why is the same why when you are trying to understand why Johnson abandoned the message that got him elected Speaker.
They then gathered, and within three weeks they agreed to abandon that message. You need to ask yourself why, because that why is the same why when you are trying to understand why Johnson abandoned the message that got him elected Speaker.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:00 pm to Lou Pai
:Like you ever supported the tea party.
Trump has project 25 and schedule F to gut bloated govt agencies.. many intellectually honest writers have said Trump took over what the tea party failed at.
The tea party was audited by the IRS at the dems, Eric Hoilder, the DOJ NSD's and McCain's hands.
Ya'll have hit rock bottom. Time to pick out a nice rehab with a rubberroom and arts and crafts room with meatball on the telly.
Trump has project 25 and schedule F to gut bloated govt agencies.. many intellectually honest writers have said Trump took over what the tea party failed at.
The tea party was audited by the IRS at the dems, Eric Hoilder, the DOJ NSD's and McCain's hands.
Ya'll have hit rock bottom. Time to pick out a nice rehab with a rubberroom and arts and crafts room with meatball on the telly.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:04 pm to Lou Pai
The GOPe smothered it long before Trump showed up.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:05 pm to Lou Pai
It all went downhill when the Evangelicals hijacked it, and turned it into more culture than economics.
The same thing is happening to MAGA, with some of the more Evangelical types even stating "MAGA is bigger than Trump".
This is also just another in the line of bandwagon political ideology for the non-Left, chasing whatever trends become popular for a population without a personal set of political ideals.
The same thing is happening to MAGA, with some of the more Evangelical types even stating "MAGA is bigger than Trump".
This is also just another in the line of bandwagon political ideology for the non-Left, chasing whatever trends become popular for a population without a personal set of political ideals.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:08 pm to Lou Pai
Can't wait until we can say the same thing about the trans mental patients who keep trying to frick little kids.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:10 pm to Lou Pai
That’s what the party faithful shift from principled Conservatism to Statist populism has done. Conservatives can blame themselves though, for not giving their voters what they promised they’d deliver.
RIP small and responsible government proponents.
RIP small and responsible government proponents.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:14 pm to Lou Pai
Tea Party was dead long before Trump came down the escalator in the summer of 2015.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:24 pm to Lou Pai
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The Tea Party Movement Is Dead
That's fine, if it's what you need to hear for yourself.
This is the short path and remedy to your psychosis:
Repentance
You're welcome.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:00 pm to Lou Pai
And thus we ended up with four groups.
Neocons who didn'r mind spending money as long as it was for war, and turned a blind eye to illegal immigration because it was a profit center for companies.
TEA Party who wanted smaller, libertarian government, but had no capacity to lead
Culture Warriors who only seem to care about social isues like anti-abortion
MAGA who has no desire to reduce government, but rather wants to use large government to punish their enemies, all while maintaining a show of expensive "vote yourselves the treasury" populism.
The TEA party numbers have shrunk over time, and here we are.
Neocons who didn'r mind spending money as long as it was for war, and turned a blind eye to illegal immigration because it was a profit center for companies.
TEA Party who wanted smaller, libertarian government, but had no capacity to lead
Culture Warriors who only seem to care about social isues like anti-abortion
MAGA who has no desire to reduce government, but rather wants to use large government to punish their enemies, all while maintaining a show of expensive "vote yourselves the treasury" populism.
The TEA party numbers have shrunk over time, and here we are.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:16 pm to Lou Pai
Obama started the killing of the Tea Party. The IRS and other alphabet agencies targeted it.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:19 pm to Lou Pai
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Trump did for the Republican establishment what it couldn’t do on its own in killing the Tea Party and its demands for small, constitutional government.
Trumpism destroyed the last vestiges of fiscal conservatism.
They did it. We're all socialists now.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:57 pm to Lou Pai
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FreedomWorks leaders, for example, still believed in free trade, small government and a robust merit-based immigration system. Increasingly, however, those positions clashed with a Trump-aligned membership who called for tariffs on imported goods and a wall to keep immigrants out
I'm guessing he is a NeverTrumper as he readily uses flawed logic to attack Trump. He supports "merit based immigration" and attacks MAGA for wanting a wall. It's obvious that the wall is to stop illegal immigration. Like all the arguments from leftists, he is conflating legal immigration and illegal immigration to push his own narrative. MAGA supports merit-based immigration for areas of need and eliminating illegal immigration. Maybe FreedomWorks wouldn't have collapsed if they understood the harm of illegal immigration.
Besides being dishonest, he is naive for thinking free trade can exist when only 1 side engages in free trade. Intentionally handicapping yourself in trade negotiations is dumb. Sometimes you just have to recognize reality instead of pretending everyone follows your utopian principles.
Trump did add to much to the debt, but I'm not foolish enough to believe any republican would have done it differently during covid. No politician would have told the American people that they would just have to starve and lose their homes because their governor locked down the state, especially a few months before an election. Anyone trying to argue differently isn't using common sense.
The Tea Party was destroyed by Obama and the GOPe, the same GOPe now telling us MAGA is bad. Many people in here lamenting the closing of FreedomWorks also support the dissolution of MAGA, which doesn't make any sense as it is the same people attacking both groups.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:03 pm to Lou Pai
It's been dead since the IRS started targeting them
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:04 pm to Lou Pai
I thought it has been dead for almost a decade lol
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:56 pm to Lou Pai
One of these days people will realize these Republican "movements" and such are just name harvesting for spamming political scams.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:26 am to Lou Pai
The Tea Party never actually accomplished anything noteworthy. They all went to DC and the status quo reigned
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