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re: Shreveport: 12 year shot in head burgling cars
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:14 pm to RFK
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:14 pm to RFK
quote:in that situation at 12 the odds were greatly stacked against him and maybe this will wake some responsibility in parents
Not excusing his crimes, but ask yourself is there a better way to address this? A shame for anyone to lose their life in a non-violent crime, especially a kid.
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:19 pm to RFK
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Terrible. Just a kid.
Not excusing his crimes, but ask yourself is there a better way to address this? A shame for anyone to lose their life in a non-violent crime, especially a kid.
How much cash do you currently have in your wallet? Because that's exactly what YOUR life is worth to someone like this.
It doesn't matter if someone disagrees with that or not; it is the truth.
There is nothing "non-violent" about this type of crime. They are looking for cash, drugs, and the grand prize- guns. And you can bet your life they don't value your life enough to avoid taking it, if they can.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:27 pm to RFK
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Terrible. Just a kid.
Not excusing his crimes, but ask yourself is there a better way to address this? A shame for anyone to lose their life in a non-violent crime, especially a kid.
I'm reminded of a saying old military guys would say that went something to the effect of "a bullet kills you the all the same whether a 13 or a 30 year old pulls the trigger."
Of course a kid shot dead before even becoming a teenager is sad but his being young doesn't omit him from the consequences of committing felonies against people.
Personally, I find it disgusting the "grown" people around him that refused to be adults and raise him and millions more like him that put them on a path to destruction.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:31 pm to oleheat
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How much cash do you currently have in your wallet? Because that's exactly what YOUR life is worth to someone like this.
It doesn't matter if someone disagrees with that or not; it is the truth.
There is nothing "non-violent" about this type of crime. They are looking for cash, drugs, and the grand prize- guns. And you can bet your life they don't value your life enough to avoid taking it, if they can.
It's such a shame too. I spent a lot of time coaching kids from the rough part of town. Underneath the outward appearance, they really were just kids and often times very sweet. It used to burn me up every time we would get a kid on the right path, coming to practice everyday, showing up for school, getting good grades, cutting out the discipline problems, etc. only for "their people" to convince them that they were "acting white" and "forgetting where they came from."
Their own families were the ones that oftentimes dragged them away from potential success. Of course, they'd then come back and blame us for our "white privilege." The amount of absolutely loveable and sweet kids that we ended up losing to the streets because their POS sperm donors (I won't insult father by calling them fathers) convinced them to embrace that thug culture breaks my heart.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:34 pm to JiminyCricket
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"their people" to convince them that they were "acting white" and "forgetting where they came from."
this, this times a gazillion, I've seen this a lot and it is a real thing, a huge thing, and as you pointed out, it deters, prevents kids from trying to claw their way out of that thug/ghetto life
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:40 pm to Czechessential
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this, this times a gazillion, I've seen this a lot and it is a real thing, a huge thing, and as you pointed out, it deters, prevents kids from trying to claw their way out of that thug/ghetto life
I had a kid one time that was about as made in a lab as a football player as you could ask for. About 6'2", maybe 235-240 and ran in the 4.5-4.6 range. Flexible, could bend off the edge, physical. Had all the tools to play 3-4 OLB somewhere. We worked with him a ton and got his grades right, he was attending school everyday, hitting his goals in the weight room, etc. We even sent him to a few camps on our dime as a sophomore and he started to get noticed. He even stayed at my place on a lot of weekends and started coming to church with us. Had a few convo's with LSU and Florida that I can remember. Things were really looking up for him.
His dad got out of jail and moved back in with his mom. Things were fine for a bit and then we noticed the grades started slipping. He'd start missing a few practices here and there. Eventually his "dad" convinced him to chill with him during the day and "work the streets." Had a conversation with the kid one day and his dad was feeding him a line that "those white people don't care about you" and "what, you think you're above us all now with your grades and football shite?"
Kid didn't even play his senior year and never did end up graduating, got hooked on the drugs and last I saw him, he was bumming on street corners, weighing about 150 lbs and had sores all over him from the scratching.
That one still bothers me.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:44 pm to Jcorye1
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Such a shite situation. 12 year old doesn't understand the ramification of his actions
bullshite. At 12 I damn sure knew that if I went fricking around someone's house/property bad shite could happen. That said, and ignoring the question of if he knew the potential risks, he sure as shite was old enough to know the difference between right and wrong.
Don't turn this little shite into a victim.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:46 pm to LegendInMyMind
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At 12 I damn sure knew that if I went fricking around someone's house/property bad shite could happen
yep
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he sure as shite was old enough to know the difference between right and wrong.
absolutely
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:49 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Don't turn this little shite into a victim.
In a way, I think the kid is a victim. He's a victim of a rotting culture that is absent male leadership, refuses to teach accountability or responsibility and it ultimately got him killed. His own damn culture set him up to fail. Until blacks are willing to recognize that their culture is literally killing their kids, things won't get better.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:56 pm to JiminyCricket
Should put that little shits parents in jail too.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:58 pm to JiminyCricket
I worked with "at-risk" kids some time back in a residential job training program. Some of them were at the center by choice, others because their families made them go.
I took a liking to one young man who was genuinely interested in bettering himself. He knew he had to start by earning his GED, which he did. He was so pumped and proud of himself.
Earning his GED meant that he could go home for the weekend. His family was planning a big party for him, and he was excited.
I saw him walking on campus the following Monday, and I asked him how the weekend went. He showed me his award for earning his GED - the black eye his uncle gave him for "trying to be white". So sad.
I took a liking to one young man who was genuinely interested in bettering himself. He knew he had to start by earning his GED, which he did. He was so pumped and proud of himself.
Earning his GED meant that he could go home for the weekend. His family was planning a big party for him, and he was excited.
I saw him walking on campus the following Monday, and I asked him how the weekend went. He showed me his award for earning his GED - the black eye his uncle gave him for "trying to be white". So sad.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:00 pm to FartinLutherKing
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Should put that little shits parents in jail too.
Oh I agree the "parents" have culpability here. I really believe though that even jail won't fix the black community. White people can't fix the black community. Until the black community as a whole decides that enough is enough and this rotten culture is not working and must be changed, things will not get better. Doesn't matter how many get killed or go to prison. The culture is reproducing shitheads faster than you can address them.
Black people have to fix black people, nobody else can do it for them.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:03 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Don’t want to be that baw this morning.
He will be fine just going to have to pay a good lawyer
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:08 pm to JiminyCricket
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Kid didn't even play his senior year and never did end up graduating, got hooked on the drugs and last I saw him, he was bumming on street corners, weighing about 150 lbs and had sores all over him from the scratching.
In their eyes, it's still a better outcome than ACTING WHITE. I understand this story. Knew of a similar situation but not near the potential player. But still everyone did all they could to better this kid's life. He kept it real once he graduated from HS and is now in the Pen doing time for armed robbery. All it takes is one old friend or brother to make fun of them and they'll do anything they can to prove they're not white.
Which is the problem with AA moving out of the hood and bettering their lives by moving to suburbia with good jobs. They're great people and parents, but watch out for their kids because they have everything to prove that they're hard and from the street, even though they've only known the middle class.
Normal people think 12 yrs old is too young to be out at midnight burgling cars and smoking cush and drinking lean. But anyone who knows the street can tell you that usually at 12, they've already had a few years experience at it.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:09 pm to Flavius Belisarius
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Unless your life is truly in danger, it’s far better to let a criminal walk with even a few thousand dollars worth of stuff.
Yea fuk that. We dont do nothing and these fukers are going to take over thercountry
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:11 pm to oleheat
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hey are looking for cash, drugs, and the grand prize- guns. And you can bet your life they don't value your life enough to avoid taking it, if they can.
Bingo we have a winner..
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:19 pm to JiminyCricket
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It used to burn me up every time we would get a kid on the right path, coming to practice everyday, showing up for school, getting good grades, cutting out the discipline problems, etc. only for "their people" to convince them that they were "acting white" and "forgetting where they came from."
This is probably the thing I detest most about black culture. And it's been this way for decades.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:23 pm to Boomdaddy65201
The 'Yuts' of today, Oyveh. 
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:23 pm to Kracka
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This is probably the thing I detest most about black culture. And it's been this way for decades.
Crabs in a bucket mentality. There's a certain degree of safety in failure for these people. They don't want their kids to do better than they did because if they do, the "whitey held me down" narrative goes out the window. They'd have to admit that most of their lack of success is rooted in their own poor choices.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:32 pm to Kracka
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acting white
You can't put absolutes on this as there are good people and pieces of shite in all races. But when I think about my kids, I WANT my kids to do better in life than I did. I WANT them to have things and opportunities that I did not have. I make decisions in my life that better theirs, even at the expense of mine. My question is...what percentage of black people do and feel the same? Would it be fair to say 50%? I understand that blacks, as a whole, don't have the same resources that I do to provide material things to their kids, but it doesn't take a dollar to teach morals, responsibility, respect for others, and integrity. Nor does it cost a dollar to have conversations with them, trying to convince them to stay on the right path. Maybe I'm naive and this happens a lot more than I think it does? Maybe it's a really small percentage of black people who give the rest a bad name? I'm not sure, but from this side of the tracks, it seems as though there is a big difference in parents' efforts to help their kids become better than they were.
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