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Was Jay Johnson too loyal to his returning roster?
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:54 pm
There were clearly guys on this roster he could have told to walk, but he let return. Those spots could have been used for another infielder or 2 in the portal as well as pitching. Right after a championship would seem to be the best time to load up while you have max visibility. I think everybody felt good about the catcher spot, although that spot has turned into a disappointment.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:58 pm to Demonbengal
You don’t tell players like Milazzo and travinski to take a hike when you lose the experience we did even if travinski is completely apathetic.
Like Florida shite just happens sometimes. I’ll melt if we repeat this next season.
Like Florida shite just happens sometimes. I’ll melt if we repeat this next season.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:01 pm to Demonbengal
What makes you think that the 3 additional guys from the portal would be better?
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:07 pm to Demonbengal
He thought the pitching and defense would carry this team, but they have been the most disappointing aspect
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:15 pm to Demonbengal
yeah I think he put way too much faith in guys taking the next step on the lineup, but he was agressive with the pitching staff. We got 2 starters besides Hurd so it’s not like we put all our eggs in that basket, but Hurd sucking absolutely fricked this teM
we brought back Kling and Pearson and…. no one else in the outfield. It’s crazy we were more agressive there.
And. the infield too. I know you eventually have to play the guys you recruit but Neal and Kling were huge question marks coming into the season.
Jones was the only sophmore
I though showed signs of life last year in SEC play,
we brought back Kling and Pearson and…. no one else in the outfield. It’s crazy we were more agressive there.
And. the infield too. I know you eventually have to play the guys you recruit but Neal and Kling were huge question marks coming into the season.
Jones was the only sophmore
I though showed signs of life last year in SEC play,
This post was edited on 5/12/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:07 pm to Demonbengal
I don’t know if loyalty is the issue. He thought guys would take the natural next step and those guys did not.
The way to long term success is still through high school recruiting, not the portal.
The way to long term success is still through high school recruiting, not the portal.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:43 pm to Demonbengal
As of today Kling is batting .176 with .328 OBP in SEC play. How does he see the field? I’ve heard that players are pissed because regardless of how he plays he’s constantly in the lineup while Jay holds others accountable. I could care less what the stats are in non SEC games.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:46 pm to Demonbengal
Jay thought he could teach 3/4 of our offensive players to hit for average in one offseason. It didn't happen.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:50 pm to Demonbengal
Put too much faith in Hurd, Kling, and Neal
Season looks a lot different if those 3 wouldve stepped up
Season looks a lot different if those 3 wouldve stepped up
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:55 pm to Demonbengal
This team lost a lot of the lineup after last season. People need to deal with it. Would you have rather had a loaded team last season and not bring home a championship and have a good season this season with no guarantee to win it all or win it all last year and rebuild this year and maybe next season because the lineup was depleted? I'll take the championship every few years and rebuild when necessary. Still the best baseball program in the country.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:39 pm to Demonbengal
I think the biggest downfall is obviously Hurd. He really believed he was not only a starter but the top starter on the team coming into the season. turns out he's a mid-level bullpen arm at this point. Thats where we got hurt the most. Just way too much trust in a guy that outside of nice run in the CWS was hyper inconsistent and frankly not very good last season.
About Kling/Neal, these guys were top guys in their class, just hadnt got a ton of run as freshmen really so I would say most of us also believed they would pul through in year 2, especially with Neal's thing just being injury. We had other options for those guys, we didnt really for Hurd. We had Trav/Milazzo at catcher if Neal didnt work out (he hasnt). We had a number of outfield options if Kling didnt pull through, but for whatever reason some of those guys didnt get much run. Brown was a little nicked up so thats part of it, and Larson got his shot, but whatever happened to Ruddell is anyone's guess. Basically no real shot this season in year 2. Mic Paul got no run either (not saying he should, but he simply didnt in year 2). Derrick Mitchell no playing time either, but also a freshman. Just hard to understand the line of thinking there sticking with Kling so much.
Didnt help Bingham didnt really work out either after smashing last season.
About Kling/Neal, these guys were top guys in their class, just hadnt got a ton of run as freshmen really so I would say most of us also believed they would pul through in year 2, especially with Neal's thing just being injury. We had other options for those guys, we didnt really for Hurd. We had Trav/Milazzo at catcher if Neal didnt work out (he hasnt). We had a number of outfield options if Kling didnt pull through, but for whatever reason some of those guys didnt get much run. Brown was a little nicked up so thats part of it, and Larson got his shot, but whatever happened to Ruddell is anyone's guess. Basically no real shot this season in year 2. Mic Paul got no run either (not saying he should, but he simply didnt in year 2). Derrick Mitchell no playing time either, but also a freshman. Just hard to understand the line of thinking there sticking with Kling so much.
Didnt help Bingham didnt really work out either after smashing last season.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:48 am to Demonbengal
I just don't know how we got run over in the portal. And yeah, I know we got a meaningless ranking that claimed we had the second best portal class, but that was mostly based on getting Holman and Jump who were top end available players. But other teams did a much better job of filling holes throughout their rosters, whereas we really didn't do near enough to offset the losses to our lineup.
I don't know if we just got beat out for players, or if it was that Jay had too much confidence in guys like Kling, Frey, Neal and his top incoming freshmen to step up and produce. and didn't really put much emphasis on hitters in the portal. Mac Bingham's track record prior to last year seemed to suggest his numbers may have been a little fluky last year, to me. Seems like maybe that was the case. But he was the big get on the position player side.
In years past, when you had a mass exodus of talented players in one offseason, it was just one of those things that happens, and you had to accept that you were going to need a lot of young guys to step up, or you were going to struggle. But in the age of the portal, where the top teams are just buying whatever they need and reloading every year, there was really no excuse for LSU, coming off a national title, to get left in the dust. Also, player development is overall lagging behind.
I don't know if we just got beat out for players, or if it was that Jay had too much confidence in guys like Kling, Frey, Neal and his top incoming freshmen to step up and produce. and didn't really put much emphasis on hitters in the portal. Mac Bingham's track record prior to last year seemed to suggest his numbers may have been a little fluky last year, to me. Seems like maybe that was the case. But he was the big get on the position player side.
In years past, when you had a mass exodus of talented players in one offseason, it was just one of those things that happens, and you had to accept that you were going to need a lot of young guys to step up, or you were going to struggle. But in the age of the portal, where the top teams are just buying whatever they need and reloading every year, there was really no excuse for LSU, coming off a national title, to get left in the dust. Also, player development is overall lagging behind.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:45 am to Demonbengal
I think he expected guys like Neal, Kling, and Hurd to take that next step and none have.
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