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Why won't Trump use his sway to build a viable 3rd Party?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:09 pm
To state one of the most obvious truths ever: there is a negligible difference in the 2 parties.
Trump seems to espouse a paleoconservative philosophy (or one that leans very strongly that way, anyway). Whatever your views of him are, there is no doubt he has a large, active base.
Many people from both sides are feeling more and more alienated by their parties and many crave a government run according to pragmatism instead of dogmatism.
A party that holds to anti-interventionism, a sensible immigration policy, capitalism instead of corporatism, and more traditional Western values would seemingly break the 2 party hold on American politics.
Would he better serve the country by focusing his efforts on something like this?
Trump seems to espouse a paleoconservative philosophy (or one that leans very strongly that way, anyway). Whatever your views of him are, there is no doubt he has a large, active base.
Many people from both sides are feeling more and more alienated by their parties and many crave a government run according to pragmatism instead of dogmatism.
A party that holds to anti-interventionism, a sensible immigration policy, capitalism instead of corporatism, and more traditional Western values would seemingly break the 2 party hold on American politics.
Would he better serve the country by focusing his efforts on something like this?
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:10 pm to AUveritas
Would need to build a second party first.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:11 pm to AUveritas
quote:
Why won't Trump use his sway to build a viable 3rd Party?
Because MAGA has taken over the party.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:12 pm to AUveritas
quote:
Why won't Trump use his sway to build a viable 3rd Party?
Because it's MUCH more difficult to establish a new political party brand than it is to co-op an existing brand.
The necons co-opted the Republican Party from the late '60s to 2016. MAGA is co-opting it now.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:15 pm to GumboPot
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The necons co-opted the Republican Party from the late '60s to 2016. MAGA is co-opting it now.
Only partly, I think. Establishment Republicans keep getting elected to Congress and at state and local levels. It doesn't seem the party itself is changing anything to become more Trump-ish.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:20 pm to livinforgmday
Why would he? He has all of the Republicans lining up to kiss his arse. He is only running so he can possibly win and either pardon himself and/or call off the other trials. His rhetoric has led the GOP to firmly believe that the only way he can lose is if the elections are stolen or rigged. Repeat a lie often enough and it will morph into the truth in some people's minds.
What is the tell in all of this? Check how the donations are being spent, it is going to his lawyers.
What is the tell in all of this? Check how the donations are being spent, it is going to his lawyers.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:24 pm to AUveritas
No need to build an all new building for business when there’s one already constructed for sale. Fire the bad employees and hire better ones.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:44 pm to AUveritas
Because the RINO party and Marxist party could likely fund a way to stop a third party from becoming a reality. Just like tea party.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:46 pm to Demonbengal
Third party would only work if there was a fourth party. I don't know how that split would happen.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:47 pm to AUveritas
What sway?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:06 pm to AUveritas
quote:
Would he better serve the country by focusing his efforts on something like this?
No, because most Independents aren't morons.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:09 pm to AUveritas
Only if we had runoffs in Presidential elections. Perot siphoned off enough conservative vote to give the Presidency to Clinton.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:10 pm to GumboPot
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MAGA is co-opting it now.
"co-opting" with like 10 seats in the House and 1 Senator
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:14 pm to BCreed1
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Because MAGA has taken over the party.
the literal RINOs.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
There will NEVER be a viable third party.
That is why the communist morphed into the demoncrat party.
That is why the communist morphed into the demoncrat party.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:39 pm to AUveritas
I remember Ross Perot giving the White House to plurality winning Bill Clinton.
Third parties work well in a parliamentary system though.
Third parties work well in a parliamentary system though.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:44 pm to livinforgmday
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:46 pm to AUveritas
I think the most obvious answer is that a 3rd party:
a. Has never won
b. Cannot win now
c. Will never win in the future.
Other than that I think it's a great idea.
a. Has never won
b. Cannot win now
c. Will never win in the future.
Other than that I think it's a great idea.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:48 pm to AUveritas
He had taken over the GOP.
Why does he need to start a 3rd party?
Why does he need to start a 3rd party?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 4:53 pm to Rebel
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He had taken over the GOP.
If this were true, you'd have more MAGA in Congress.
Instead, you're seeing only 5-10% of the GOP coalition being MAGA.
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