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If you’re in the market for an EV….

Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:01 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64730 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:01 am
Hertz is selling off its fleet for a song….

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Hertz loses another $200 million from its EVs Hertz i


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Hertz is increasing the number of EVs it will sell from its fleet — and will take a loss on those sales.

Car rental operator Hertz (HTZ) reported it lost another $200 million due to its EV gamble.

In its first quarter earnings report, Hertz said it “upsized” its prior EV fleet drawdown plans by an additional 10,000 EVs, which led to the company incurring a $195 million charge to vehicle depreciation for writing down the value of EVs held for sale.

The company previously said it would sell off 20,000 EVs from its fleet, meaning it will now dispose of 30,000 EVs in its fleet through the end of 2024. Add today’s charge to the $245 million write-down taken in Q4, and the company has now lost $440 million on its EV gambit.



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Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80949 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:02 am to
EV sucks so much it's comical
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124522 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:03 am to
Guess all those stupid Tom Brady commercials aren't working
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12625 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:03 am to
Anyone seriously considering that needs to run a storage health check. Those things have been supercharged more than most and I was expect higher than normal degradation along with the jizz that’s in most former rentals cars.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261392 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:03 am to
There is a dealership here selling Subaru Solterra's at 10k off, with a 4k refund.

All have less than 5k miles.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80949 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:05 am to
I can't imagine the lack of chargers in Alaska
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35429 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:09 am to
EV rental cars never made any logical sense. The entire value is being able to charge at home overnight.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261392 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:11 am to
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I can't imagine the lack of chargers in Alaska


Juneau has a lot, but you cant drive out of here either.

In fact, Juneau has more EVs per capita than any other town/city.
Cheap, local hydro grid.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64343 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:12 am to
Why would someone want the inconvenience of a rental EV at this point in time? That seems like such an insanely dumb move by hertz.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1908 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:12 am to
"incurring a $195 million charge to vehicle depreciation"

Depreciation isn't an actual cash flow charge. You add it back in the cash flow statement. Like say you own a business and buy a car and depreciate it over 10 years at $4,000 a year. No one is actually coming to you and making you pay $4,000 a year. It's a non-cash item and gets added back in cash flow statement to find total cash flow for a year.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9084 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:12 am to
I rented a car once from the airport and was “upgraded” to an EV. I didn’t know much about them. Never again. A weekend trip and I had to roam the city looking for a rapid charger in order to make it back to the airport in time for my flight. Completely impractical if you’re going somewhere without a charger you can plug into overnight.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261392 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:16 am to
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I rented a car once from the airport and was “upgraded” to an EV. I didn’t know much about them. Never again. A weekend trip and I had to roam the city looking for a rapid charger in order to make it back to the airport in time for my flight.


I park on the street, dont want to pay my building $500/mo for the garage with chargers. So that knocks me out of the conversation.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34811 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:29 am to
I’m not even 100% against EVs but who tf would want to get an EV as a rental
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25917 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:31 am to
Y’all are missing the intent. Rental car companies were trying to appeal to travelers who were ESG conscious…they wanted an option for drivers who demanded “alternatives”.

Turns out people don’t really care that much.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23655 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:32 am to
Renting an EV absolutely SUCKS... it was fun to drive the Tesla, and it's a cool car and all, but having to start every fricking day driving to a charging station across town, sitting there in a fricking parking lot for an hour with the wife and kids before we could actually even get to start our day, absolutely was retarded....

it was easily one of the worst experiences of my life... for rental EVs to make sense, a shite ton of infrastructure would have to be put in to make it much more convenient vs. having to do what i described
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8994 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:35 am to
Why the Hybrid should have been the route vs full EV. I have rented a Hybrid and actually enjoyed it. I would consider buying a Hybrid on my next purchase because I still like the ICE option.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35429 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:38 am to
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Y’all are missing the intent. Rental car companies were trying to appeal to travelers who were ESG conscious…they wanted an option for drivers who demanded “alternatives”.


The value for the rental companies was in lower maintenance costs and what they hoped would be stronger resale values… didn’t turn out that way.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6827 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:01 am to
I bought two hybrids. Getting 54.5mpg
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119426 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:24 am to
Buying a used EV.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27150 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:33 am to
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Why the Hybrid should have been the route vs full EV. I have rented a Hybrid and actually enjoyed it. I would consider buying a Hybrid on my next purchase because I still like the ICE option.

I would highly recommend it. I’ve had mine for about two years and love it. Can’t imagine going back to full ICE for a normal passenger vehicle.
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