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re: Axios: Nikki Haley being considered for VP

Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:39 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:39 am to
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conservative principles


Conservative principles of endless war, globalism, fealty to Israel, government censorship, and catering to the left?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10363 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:39 am to
That’s a no for me for sure. Deep state would pop Trump quickly to see her installed as POTUS leading the uniparty, reaching across the aisle and expanding our involvement in wars.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10597 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:45 am to
I really like JD Vance but I'm sure he'll end up disappointing like all the rest.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60503 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:49 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4193 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Conservative principles of endless war, globalism, fealty to Israel, government censorship, and catering to the left?


The "endless war" idiocy y'all are all parroting from Huckster Carlson would be better stated like, "Successfully surviving the greatest physical threat to the existence of life on the planet by fighting proxy wars and winning the Cold War, thereby breaking the USSR and avoiding global nuclear war as well as understanding that to avoid another evil world power from emerging, the US has to take an active role in controlling international Bad Actors. This includes strategically supporting the only democracy in a region of the world in which every other surrounding country refers to us as "The Great Satan" and which has the largest concentration of oil in the world.

"Globalism, government censorship, and catering to the left" are too broad to address. They may or may not contain legitimate criticisms. If they do, I will refer you back to the part of the post you were apparently too dumb to read. That would be the part in which I said that the Republican Party has failed to adhere to conservative principles way more than any of us would have liked.

But I'm sure, you're right. I'm sure the thing to do is abandon the ONLY major party that EVER espoused conservative principles, even if they didn't live up to them as much as we'd all like.

Let's start a party for the Little Guy.

That has worked out great for the Democratic Party.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99103 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:54 am to
No.

frick no.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49028 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Nikki Haley is under active consideration by Donald Trump's campaign to be his running mate, two people familiar with the dynamic told Axios.


Muh sources. I don't believe it.

If it's true, then Trump is committing political seppuku
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4193 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:


That’s a no for me for sure. Deep state would pop Trump quickly to see her installed as POTUS leading the uniparty, reaching across the aisle and expanding our involvement in wars.


Good thinking.

None of that will happen if Biden is re-elected.

The UniParty only controls Republicans.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The "endless war" idiocy y'all are all parroting from Huckster Carlson would be better stated like, "Successfully surviving the greatest physical threat to the existence of life on the planet by fighting proxy wars and winning the Cold War, thereby breaking the USSR and avoiding global nuclear war as well as understanding that to avoid another evil world power from emerging, the US has to take an active role in controlling international Bad Actors. This includes strategically supporting the only democracy in a region of the world in which every other surrounding country refers to us as "The Great Satan" and which has the largest concentration of oil in the world.


All those words to say "I never served in uniform, but I want to send your kids to war."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261443 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:57 am to
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Conservative principles of endless war, globalism, fealty to Israel, government censorship, and catering to the left?


Free Markets
Fiscal responsibility
Individual freedom (vs collective)
Private property.


Those are conservative principles.
Posted by Taketts
Member since Feb 2023
116 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:57 am to
That would be the best decision ever from Trump. Would get the neoconservatives back in the fold.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30975 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The UniParty only controls Republicans.


The willing don’t need to be controlled.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:59 am to
quote:

That would be the best decision ever from Trump. Would get the neoconservatives back in the fold.


It would guarantee that 90% of his voters don't vote.

We didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and we aren't going ro vote for a ticket with Indian Hillary Clinton on it in 2024.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Those are conservative principles.


Those are not the principles of Nikki Clinton and her ilk.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:01 am to
quote:

The Little Guy


The little guy isn't a curse word. The "little guy"
is everybody who isn't actively engaged in userping government authority for their own personal gain. "The little guy" is someone who works for a living instead of living off investment gains driven by inflationary government spending. "The little guy" questions the sanity of constant war and death.

"The little guy" questions the sanity of driving manufacturing out of the country to drive corporate profits and then lamenting the fact that we can't even manufacture high end chips or munitions necessary for legitimate national security.

And the idea that we might advocate policies that democrats advocated 30 or 40 years ago doesn't bother me.

Thirty years ago, it was a Republican congress that passed NAFTA.

Twenty four years ago it was a Republican Congess that granted ChIna most favored nation trade status.

GOP "traditional conservatives" have had control of our government half the time for the last 50 years.

Here is what they did with that power.

Raised the debt from 300 billion to 34 trillion.

Took us off the gold standard.

Opened China and exported all decent
manufacturing job there.

Started and lost multiple wars.

Tolerated open borders and collaborated on amnesty after amnesty.

Entered into trade agreements and cheered on the giant sucking sound.

This is a terrible record. Yet even so, you "traditional GOP conservatives" resent populists who bare no responsibility for all the misery you have caused.

You own this mess. This is your mess. The "little guys" suffered greatly for your mess while your donors have done quite well.

This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4193 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:01 am to
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All those words to say "I never served in uniform, but I want to send your kids to war."


Those words say, "muh Little Guy."
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Those words say, "muh Little Guy


Let's compare DD214s. I'm pretty sure mine says 4 deployments since 2001 while yours doesn't exist, yet you want us going back again and again so you can have someone else fight your wars.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 10:04 am
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2294 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:03 am to
Legally, according to the Constitution, THE LAW of THE LAND, Nikki Is ineligible for the office.
The following explains the situation. (See Vattel's "The Law of Nations" as referenced by the drafters of the Constitution. )

"Becoming a U.S. citizen is only the first step in the process of creating a “natural born Citizen.” The second step is the two U.S citizens procreating a child on U.S. soil. It is these “natural born Citizens” who can someday be President or Vice President of the United States. Stated differently, a President must be a second generation American citizen by both U.S. citizen parents. A Senator or Representative can be a first generation American citizen by naturalization or birth. It is the extra generation carried by a President which assures the American people that he/she is born with attachment and allegiance only to the United States."
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37693 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Free Markets
Fiscal responsibility
Individual freedom (vs collective)
Private property.


quote:

Fiscal responsibility


LOL will never happen under Trump who spends like a Democrat
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71562 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:04 am to
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Trump would go with Fauci if Pfizer gave him money again.


remember when you first came on and said you’d beat Trump?
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