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re: It’s interference. With visual evidence and the rule

Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:07 am to
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:07 am to
If the ball was right in front of the plate, it gets called. Alex had a clear lane to throw. Jones being a righty and wonder how much real experience he has a first base it’s not that easy of a bag. Shows just how good Morgan was.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4525 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:15 am to
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The ball doesn’t need to hit him and it doesn’t need to be a perfect throw for it to be interference. If, by the angle, it hypothetically impedes the throw then he’s out. The botched actual throw doesn’t change that.
It was interference…..case settled. Let’s all get on with our day


I think what isn't even being considered by most is this, is the reason for the wild throw, the hesitation that most likely caused the throw and then, Bear not being able to catch the ball caused because he is clearly running inside of the runner path even at the point of the collision at his arrival at 1st. They ran into each other because of what? A bad throw.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 11:54 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95901 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:20 am to
The runner is in no way shape or form blocking the giant red circle. Which is where the throw should be. It’s wide arse open. Milazzo jsut fricks up and wildly throws to the blue

Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4525 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:24 am to
That wasn't an easy play. The throw angle is not a clear because he has to circle the ball and it will be a tight window and a close play. Bear does catch with his LH and the runner is running right at him inside the runner path and will have avoid contact at 1st which did not happen. The rule does not discuss angles, what glove hand players have, how much experience anybody has or whether or not there was a clear path to throw.

Did the batter-runner stay inside the 3' path when a fielding play was made at 1st base? And if the batter-runner did not stay in the lane, did they leave to avoid contact with the fielder?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4525 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:33 am to
The defensive and offensive play does not end when he releases the ball.

Nobody is denying that the throw wasn't offline. AL had to circle the ball and it appears he hesitates or something when releases the ball.

Where is the batter-runner when the ball gets to Jones? The rule doesn't say that the throw has to be perfect. It says the the batter-runner illegally run towards 1st base when a ball is being fielded to 1st.


Posted by 76bmrlsu
Member since Aug 2016
331 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:43 am to
Travinski got called for this in the SEC tournament last season and he had a foot in the foul line. After the play Ben Mcdonald says they got confirmation that if the runner is even “a centimeter over the line you can be called for interference”

Twitter video of trav play
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95901 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:44 am to
Trav literally got hit in the back with the ball….
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:48 am to
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He had plenty of angle to make a good throw.

He failed to do so.
That's like saying the baserunner went out of the baseline but didn't interfere with the throw, so he's safe.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65034 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:49 am to
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Milazzo should’ve hit him in the back with the ball and it would’ve been called.
id rather he’d thrown the ball to Jones
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95901 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:51 am to
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Milazzo should’ve hit him in the back with the ball and it would’ve been called.
Why not jsut hit your giant first baseman?
Posted by 76bmrlsu
Member since Aug 2016
331 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:51 am to
Unlike MLB you don’t have to have contact for it to be interference in college. Travinski being hit with the ball isn’t what made him out. It’s him not running in the base path, which the Alabama runner did as well
Posted by Tim Gambill
Member since Nov 2023
590 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:51 am to
Well umps are stupid so........
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95901 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:52 am to
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Travinski being hit with the ball isn’t what made him out. It’s him not running in the base path, which the Alabama runner did as well
Incorrect

The rule has been posted 1,000 times. Running out of the line does not make it interference

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NCAA Rule 7, Section 11 (p) : In running the last half of the distance from home plate to first base while the ball is being fielded to first base, the batter-runner runs outside the 3-foot restraining line or inside the foul line and, in so doing, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, except that the batter may go outside these lines to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by Gee
Member since Aug 2013
41 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:54 am to
That’s how my coaches taught me.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16511 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:57 am to
It really become a judgment call. If runners truly interfere w fielder ability to catch throw it’s called. If not it isn’t. Now did it ?????
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4525 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:57 am to
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NCAA Rule 7, Section 11 (p) : In running the last half of the distance from home plate to first base while the ball is being fielded to first base, the batter-runner runs outside the 3-foot restraining line or inside the foul line and, in so doing, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, except that the batter may go outside these lines to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball


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Running out of the line does not make it interference


What part of the rule are you not interpreting? The part that they must be running inside the 3' runner path when a ball is being fielded? Or the fact that the only exception is to avoid contact that you can leave the path?
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4748 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:58 am to
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I’m sorry but if the 1st baseman and the runner make contact and the person has run inside the foul line…. It’s an out.


Holy shite. This is not the rule. The fielder can actually be called for obstruction in the scenario you provided.

Here is what the rule is about:

A batter runner who does not run in the running lane and interferes with the first baseman’s ability to field a throw will be called out for RLI. Beyond that, if contact is had, it has to be judged who initiated the contact, did the contact interfere with an additional play, was it malicious contact, etc. None of that had anything to do with RLI. Quit googling and try to get a better understanding of the rule book. I’d love to hear your interpretations on OBS.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22793 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:59 am to
He thinks the 3 ft path goes both ways…..it only pertains to the right side of the foul line running to first.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95901 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:59 am to
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What part of the rule are you not interpreting?
Not trying to be mean but can you read?

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NCAA Rule 7, Section 11 (p) : In running the last half of the distance from home plate to first base while the ball is being fielded to first base, the batter-runner runs outside the 3-foot restraining line or inside the foul line and, in so doing, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, except that the batter may go outside these lines to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball


Running out of the line does not mean interference in itself, the rule is VERY CLEAR.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22793 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:00 pm to
Bro there was a collision at first base.
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