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re: Interesting career trend of Jay Johnson
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:18 pm to Maverick14
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:18 pm to Maverick14
And there are people here who would rather DVH, yet he had a much worse season than this a number of years back. These same fans wanting him would have never been able to deal with his atrocious season. A down season can happen to anyone. At least it’s off one of the greatest seasons ever. Jay Johnson is much younger and has already accomplished more than he has in his long career.
Several of the leaders from last season said Jay Johnson was going to win a lot and I believer that as well.
People don’t think he will stay relentless? This is his life. If this happens again next season then I get the concern, but this is kind of where baseball is after winning a title. And it wasn’t just Ole Miss and Mississippi St.
I don’t think CPM ever got this much crap and he “only” won 1 championship. I believe 2011 for him was a similar season to this. I’ll still take the ceiling of this coach over others.
Several of the leaders from last season said Jay Johnson was going to win a lot and I believer that as well.
People don’t think he will stay relentless? This is his life. If this happens again next season then I get the concern, but this is kind of where baseball is after winning a title. And it wasn’t just Ole Miss and Mississippi St.
I don’t think CPM ever got this much crap and he “only” won 1 championship. I believe 2011 for him was a similar season to this. I’ll still take the ceiling of this coach over others.
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:24 pm to The Boat
This is a week, lazy, manipulative and stupid statistic list you just posted. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you know better. frick you.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:29 pm to The Boat
Also, to the people melting over LSU being so down after winning it all… what about Florida? They were also in the championship and look at them now. They have a loaded team and only like 1 game up on us with a much worse overall record. If we didn’t blow that game with them they are far worse than we are currently.
And LSU wanted to hire him.
So OP wants to point out missing postseason from Johnson, but look at Florida too. It happens. And he has had as much success as anyone over the past several years.
And LSU wanted to hire him.
So OP wants to point out missing postseason from Johnson, but look at Florida too. It happens. And he has had as much success as anyone over the past several years.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:32 pm to beauchristopher
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I don’t think CPM ever got this much crap
This is hilarious
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:38 pm to The Boat
You should mentor CJJ, remotely from your white trash bum hovel, in between tweeking and gay orgy binges,
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:38 pm to The Boat
Man if you’ve given up on this team then we don’t stand a chance
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:45 pm to T Lasso
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This is a week, lazy, manipulative and stupid statistic list you just posted. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you know better. frick you.
Nice melt
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:57 pm to RB10
In 2020 they were headed for a third straight year with no regional.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:58 pm to RB10
Where they were gone after two games.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:01 am to beauchristopher
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Or it’s the trend of championship teams lately.
Look at the runners up too.
Oklahoma was runner up in 2022 and finished w a losing recird in the big 12 and were barely over .500 in 2023
Florida this year has a losing record in the SEC and is 1 game over .500 overall
As with all of college athletics, it’s a different game now. Teams are rebuilt every season
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:07 am to TigerMac81
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In 2020 they were headed for a third straight year with no regional.
Based on their 10-5 record when the season was called off?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:08 am to TigerMac81
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Where they were gone after two games.
And?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:15 am to The Boat
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2016 CWS 2017 Regional 2018 No postseason 2019 No postseason 2023 CWS 2024 Probably no postseason
Were you on a space voyage for 2020-2022? Why aren’t they listed?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:32 am to TigerMac81
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In 2020 they were headed for a third straight year with no regional.
They had a 10-5 record when the season was cancelled. There is no way you can know how the rest of the season would turn out
The 2000 LSU team at one point was 11-8 at the start of the season.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 12:35 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:45 am to beauchristopher
quote:in 21, PM got his team to the supers. In 22, Jay couldn't get out of the regional with the "same team" at USM.
In fact his first season at LSU is far more impressive than his championship season IMO
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:59 am to The Boat
quote:We're all gonna make it through this - I promise.
The Boat
Just hang in there, Champ.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 12:59 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:25 am to The Boat
Is there anything else you’d like to bitch and moan about?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:34 am to chadr07
(no message)
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:40 am to lsufball19
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Or it’s the trend of championship teams lately.
Look at the runners up too.
Oklahoma was runner up in 2022 and finished w a losing recird in the big 12 and were barely over .500 in 2023
Florida this year has a losing record in the SEC and is 1 game over .500 overall
As with all of college athletics, it’s a different game now. Teams are rebuilt every season
No doubt. It's really, really hard to win now. Even harder to do it consistently. The irony is Skip changed the game, making it harder, yet fans still hold LSU to that standard. And it's just not possible any more. So many more teams have invested so much more money on facilities (for fans and more importantly, the players), recruiting, travel, and a host of other things that it's created a ton of parity, particularly in the SEC.
NIL and the portal have played a huge factor the last few years, but we're still seeing the effects of COVID as well. The MLB draft went from 50 rounds to 20, meaning there are fewer drafts 60% fewer draft picks and professional jobs available, so more players are both coming to campus out of high school AND staying in college past their 3rd years. With the free COVID year, guys got 6 years of eligibility if they redshirted (next year is the last year of that, I believe). So that 3rd year hasn't been a lot of their "leverage years" and more of the later round guys are choosing to stay. And a lot of the guys that are really good college baseball players, but have little to no professional prospects--especially with the fewer draft rounds, are coming back their 4th, 5th, and even 6th seasons. So there are a lot more older, experienced teams with more talent than the sport has every seen.
And just like schools are investing in the areas of college baseball that I mentioned earlier, they're also investing in coaching and support staffs. There are coaches being poached from MLB organizations that would have been minor league lifers at worst. Hell, we poached Wes Johnson when he was the Twins' big league pitching coach IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR SEASON. The money and lifestyle makes the move very attractive for a lot these guys and they're the best of the best. So naturally, they are not only going to help entice more guys to come to campus and the same or different ones to stay--they know they can get just as good or similar development at a big time college program as they would in a few years in A ball. But with much better perks.
So more of the already better players coming to and staying in school longer added to the better development they'e getting makes for a whole lot of better, older, more experienced, and more advanced players than there has ever been before. And there's only so many scholarships, only so many roster spots, that all that talent has to be spread around more, creating more teams each year with a chance to win the CWS. And it makes the margin of error so small, especially in the SEC.
I mean, I don't think there's that big a difference between a 13-17 SEC team and a 17-13 one. Some bad injury luck (hell, LSU may have had the most talented roster in College Baseball history last year, but devastating injuries to Taylor, Edwards, and Shores--back of the bullpen guys who all threw mid-upper 90s almost derailed the season until some guys dropped their nuts and stepped up when we had to have them), some bad baseball luck (the season isn't long enough to always have that even out), and a team talented enough on paper may not make it out of the regionals, or get left out of the tourney altogether. It's really fricking hard to win now
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:08 am to The Boat
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Right do the math from 2016
Weird melt. You don’t know how statistics work
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