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re: So Biden goes against his faith of being Catholic and sides with terrorists.

Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:31 am to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:31 am to
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That’s such a dumb line from a fabricated story. It’s quite unbelievable… “hey let’s assign blood guilt to our children for us killing this innocent man!”


Yea if heard your take before And also how Pilot's portrayal in scripture was unconvincing for a Roman Curator.

All to absolve the Jews.

The Bible is clear. The Romans were culpable. We are all culpable. As well as the Jews.

You think Christianity is antisemitic, don't you.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1827 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:00 am to
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You think Christianity is antisemitic, don't you.

I don’t think I would say that.

What I might say though is that certain verses in the NT gospels were inserted to assign blame to the Jews for killing Jesus. The NT (after it was compiled by the heretic Markion) was then later used by antisemites as justification for their behavior and worldview.

One can pick any worldview, and then dig through the Bible to find justification and support. One can also take the opposite worldview, and then dig through the Bible to find support for it too. For example, up until the 1860s in America, the Bible was used by proponents of slavery to justify slavery as moral and righteous. It was also used by opponents to justify freeing all the slaves and prohibiting slavery.

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The Bible is clear. The Romans were culpable. We are all culpable. As well as the Jews.

Have you ever read the Bible? Just curious (not trying to be a dick). I personally don’t think it is clear at all. I’ll show you why.

Who killed Jesus? Let’s check 1 Corinthians 2:
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6Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. 7But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 8None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.


Ask yourself What did Paul mean about the “rulers” (Greek “Archons” transliterated)? Paul is clearly saying the Archons killed Jesus. What were these Archons? Let’s find out.

Ephesians 6:
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12For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.


Do you see where the Archons resided? In heaven. Paul never mentions the Romans, or Pontius Pilate, or the Jews killing Jesus because those stories had not yet been invented when Paul wrote his epistles.

The Jews believed the earth was ruled by an assortment of lesser gods, and that one day, Yahweh, god of the Jews, would inherit all the nations to become supreme ruler. It might be hard to believe but read Deuteronomy 32:8-9 and Psalm 89 from a modern scholarly translations such as the ESV (which take into account the Dead Sea scrolls). It’ll only take you 2 minutes. Then in the NT every time you read “powers and principalities” and such you’ll then understand to what they (usually Paul) are referring.

To assume Paul is talking about the Roman authority or the Jews killing Jesus is the fallacy of univocality. Paul clearly says the Archons, who live in heaven, killed Jesus. Therefore the Bible as a whole is unclear because the gospels say Pontius Pilate and Roman soldiers killed Jesus. In reality the latter is just a later story which contradicts earlier theology of the celestial Jesus killed in heaven by the Archons.
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