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re: Steve Bannon May Be Going to Jail

Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:25 pm to
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The old rules for thee and not me!

If Bannon goes to jail, those who have not complied to this current congress have to go to jail too.

The GOPE had better wake up. They are the useful idiots.


The GOP is handcuffed at the moment. The DOJ is controlled by the DNC. You have to get back control of the DOJ to spread the same love back to these mfers.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147227 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:25 pm to
do you agree or disagree with Rick Scott?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:31 pm to
As the banana republic quotient rises in this country, being imprisoned will be a regular feature of those who advocate for moral and true justice.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10404 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:34 pm to
Along with DOJ employees and a away back when guy named Eric Holder
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:36 pm to
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They will do the same to Steve and it is ridiculous.

Congress has subpoena power. Refusing to appear is contempt.

Was the premise of the "investigation" underlying the subpoena ridiculous? Of course. But practically everyone besides POTUS and VPOTUS is compelled to comply with a Congressional subpoena to appear and testify. In the relevant respects, its not really different from a judicial subpoena.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:37 pm to
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As the banana republic quotient rises in this country, being imprisoned will be a regular feature of those who advocate for moral and true justice.

I get the sentiment. But if you get a subpoena, and you cannot get it quashed ahead of the appearance date, you still have to show up.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:39 pm to
DGAF. frick FedGov.

My comment stands.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56664 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:40 pm to
This is going to backfire on Democrats just like the lawfare vs Trump is backfiring.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Bannon was convicted by a federal jury in July 2022 of two counts of criminal contempt of Congress for willfully defying a subpoena to testify


Serious question.

I feel like people refuse all the time. Is he the first to be charged in the past several years?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
There is merit to playing the long game, you know.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:42 pm to
You’re talking to a lawyer/sophist. Ethics and morality are irrelevant to their reasoning processes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:43 pm to
Refusing could be playing the long game.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:43 pm to
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I feel like people refuse all the time. Is he the first to be charged in the past several years?

No. Navarro is in jail for the same offense.

It is historically rare however, for a couple of different reasons. Mostly that people tend to comply, and second because the ones that don't typically have had some element of an immunity or privilege defense.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Refusing could be playing the long game.

Maybe you're right.

I have no confidence that is the case here though. Bannon, et al have shown themselves pretty inept at foresight.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:46 pm to
I view this sort of the almost exact opposite of jury nullification. With exactly the opposite results.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:46 pm to
Makes sense. Thanks.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56664 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:47 pm to
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It is historically rare however, for a couple of different reasons. Mostly that people tend to comply, and second because the ones that don't typically have had some element of an immunity or privilege defense.



Both were advisors to the president of the United States.

This is one of many "cross the rubicon" decisions by the Biden admin.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101649 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:48 pm to
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There is merit to playing the long game, you know.


Sometimes it feels like we are coming to the end of that one, if it hasn't already ended. Other times it feels like chess with a pigeon.

Either way, whatever we are playing now certainly doesn't look like any "game" I historically recognize, so it seems sort of misguided to think there are some sort of historically established "rules" anyone should be looking to adhere to.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
3023 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:48 pm to
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by a panel of U.S. D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals judges


Stopped reading there.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8666 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:51 pm to
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You would think there would be some push back but alas...


There would be pushback. IF this were the 20th century.

The post 0bamian GOP version is either too feckless, compromised, blackmailed, threatened, bribed, or... Trans-Dem.
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