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Can cities ever actually fix their housing shortage?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:43 pm
Seems that loud activists always call for more population density and more housing options in cities. But none of the actual residents already there - especially the local politicians who control permits - have any interest in having more low income people in their neighborhoods.
Any area in which they put up a bunch of inexpensive apartment complexes immediately turns to a crime-ridden shithole that no one actually wants to live in.
Is there any actual way to fix this or is this just how life is now with increased population?
Any area in which they put up a bunch of inexpensive apartment complexes immediately turns to a crime-ridden shithole that no one actually wants to live in.
Is there any actual way to fix this or is this just how life is now with increased population?
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:45 pm to Thundercles
Banking section 8 would go a long way. Make nice apartments in towns you don’t need a car in would go a long way.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:46 pm to Thundercles
Yes, but no one wants to do it because they'd be afraid to be called racist.
Go start cracking skulls in ghettos and make those areas safer for everyone to live, and the housing shortage goes away on its own. We don't have a housing shortage. We have a shortage of liveable areas. Imagine if places like the south side of Chicago were a legitimate option for a young, white family just starting out on their own. There are plenty of starter homes there but people shouldn't have to worry about dodging gunfire walking to the mailbox.
Go start cracking skulls in ghettos and make those areas safer for everyone to live, and the housing shortage goes away on its own. We don't have a housing shortage. We have a shortage of liveable areas. Imagine if places like the south side of Chicago were a legitimate option for a young, white family just starting out on their own. There are plenty of starter homes there but people shouldn't have to worry about dodging gunfire walking to the mailbox.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:47 pm to Thundercles
You mean nimby arse democrats that say they’re all for these progressive things like multi family homes, government subsidized apartment complexes, second chance homes, and recovery complexes don’t want to actually live next to them?
I know I can find my shocked face around here somewhere
I know I can find my shocked face around here somewhere
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:49 pm to Thundercles
It’s how it’s always been. Having safe, affordable housing is the reason the suburbs came to be after the highway system was installled.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:50 pm to Thundercles
Yes
The problem is Karens crying about property values. People need to learn that we arent guaranteed to make money off our residential real estate.
Tell Karen to frick herself, built the shite out of small, affordable housing.
The problem is Karens crying about property values. People need to learn that we arent guaranteed to make money off our residential real estate.
Tell Karen to frick herself, built the shite out of small, affordable housing.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:50 pm to Thundercles
Billions of dollars being spent.
Average cost of a one bedroom apartment for a vagrant is $700K to $1M per vagrant.
That judge totally fricked us over.
More and more people come here from other states because we pay out the most.
Cities are buying hotels/motels and housing them there.
They trash the rooms and the owners send the city a bill for repairs.
Rinse, repeat.
Average cost of a one bedroom apartment for a vagrant is $700K to $1M per vagrant.
That judge totally fricked us over.
More and more people come here from other states because we pay out the most.
Cities are buying hotels/motels and housing them there.
They trash the rooms and the owners send the city a bill for repairs.
Rinse, repeat.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:52 pm to Thundercles
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Any area in which they put up a bunch of inexpensive apartment complexes immediately turns to a crime-ridden shithole that no one actually wants to live in.
Well, the option is to let them camp on streets. I say build housing, let chips fall where they amy.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:53 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:54 pm to Thundercles
The term “housing shortage” is stupid. There is plenty enough housing. And there is plenty enough “good housing.” They determine “housing shortage” based on an arbitrary term “affordable housing.”
The big problem is that people don’t live within their means. 2 people who make a combined $75k a year shouldn’t be buying houses. They should live in apartments or a rental. It is what it is.
And now you have 25 year olds that think a starter should be minimum 2500 square feet. It’s ridiculous.
The big problem is that people don’t live within their means. 2 people who make a combined $75k a year shouldn’t be buying houses. They should live in apartments or a rental. It is what it is.
And now you have 25 year olds that think a starter should be minimum 2500 square feet. It’s ridiculous.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:55 pm to Thundercles
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Is there any actual way to fix this or is this just how life is now with increased population?
There is a massive housing issue in Boston. The state is now incentivizing owners of commercial properties to convert them to residential now that so many people work from home.
I’m not saying that alone solves the problem but it’s a good step.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:56 pm to BigBinBR
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The term “housing shortage” is stupid. There is plenty enough housing. And there is plenty enough “good housing.” They determine “housing shortage” based on an arbitrary term “affordable housing.”
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:58 pm to AbitaFan08
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There is a massive housing issue in Boston. The state is now incentivizing owners of commercial properties to convert them to residential now that so many people work from home.
They've been giving grants for people to build apartments in their residential homes here.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:01 pm to AbitaFan08
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There is a massive housing issue in Boston. The state is now incentivizing owners of commercial properties to convert them to residential now that so many people work from home.
Boston suffers for the same thing New Orleans and San Francisco do.
Historic housing and buildings are worth keeping but no land left to build up on.
Boston and SF have jobs too which only drives the price. New Orleans would be insanely expensive if it wasn't such a shithole
Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, etc benefit from not holding any romance to their architecture
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:07 pm to Thundercles
First you need to get rid of the illegals. They're taking up housing, even if it is cheap apartments or trailers.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:17 pm to BigBinBR
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The term “housing shortage” is stupid. There is plenty enough housing. And there is plenty enough “good housing.” They determine “housing shortage” based on an arbitrary term “affordable housing.”
The big problem is that people don’t live within their means. 2 people who make a combined $75k a year shouldn’t be buying houses. They should live in apartments or a rental. It is what it is.
And now you have 25 year olds that think a starter should be minimum 2500 square feet. It’s ridiculous.
Why are the uninformed typically the loudest and most opinionated?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:29 pm to Brosef Stalin
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First you need to get rid of the illegals. They're taking up housing, even if it is cheap apartments or trailers.
This assumes you don't wish to build any more houses.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:32 pm to VADawg
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We don't have a housing shortage. We have a shortage of liveable areas.
Exactly. There are parts of Bham with an abandoned house problem.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:32 pm to beerJeep
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You mean nimby arse democrats that say they’re all for these progressive things like multi family homes, government subsidized apartment complexes, second chance homes, and recovery complexes don’t want to actually live next to them?
It's astonishing how hard they'll fight to keep them out of their neighborhood but put them in yours
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:36 pm to Dire Wolf
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Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, etc benefit from not holding any romance to their architecture
I feel you there, but these cities are flat running out of options. There's simply no more clear space in Dallas, so the best they can do is buy up and try to clear up old neighborhoods and cram them full of high density options which makes the area awful. Probably similar in Houston and Atlanta.
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