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re: No Fly List and Revoke Student Visa
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:33 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:33 pm to Indefatigable
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Yea, this falls squarely into the "this will totally not backfire spectacularly and eventually be used on people that you happen to agree with" category of government overreach.
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:34 pm to imjustafatkid
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I fully support the revoking visas part. Foreigners shouldn't be allowed to come here and protest our country.
So any immigrant who speaks out about any of the various Trump trials should lose their visa?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:36 pm to Nikki_T
I'd rather her stop spending all my fricking tax dollars and giving it to fricking Ukraine. Can we do that instead?
These people love coming up with bullshite laws that the senate will kill or will get vetoed on Biden's desk. How about instead, you come up with legislation that will curb spending...?!
These people love coming up with bullshite laws that the senate will kill or will get vetoed on Biden's desk. How about instead, you come up with legislation that will curb spending...?!
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:46 pm to Nikki_T
Nose. Tent.
We know who this kind of legislation will actually wind up targeting.
We know who this kind of legislation will actually wind up targeting.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:58 pm to Nikki_T
umm frick no cause when dems win again they will start classifying anyone at a maga rally as terrorist and putting them on this list
never ever ever ever give the government more power. they need less not more
plus, unless they are occupying something, they have the freedom to assemble to free speech under the constitution.
we both agree they are pieces of shite....but man never give the government power while you are in charge thinking the other side wont use that against you when they are back in power. frick all that.
and why are some of the so called "small gov conservatives" in this thread all for adding new laws and growing government.....wtf is wrong with yall??
never ever ever ever give the government more power. they need less not more
plus, unless they are occupying something, they have the freedom to assemble to free speech under the constitution.
we both agree they are pieces of shite....but man never give the government power while you are in charge thinking the other side wont use that against you when they are back in power. frick all that.
and why are some of the so called "small gov conservatives" in this thread all for adding new laws and growing government.....wtf is wrong with yall??
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:09 pm to Nikki_T
quote:No. The purpose of the “no-fly list” isn’t to punish political enemies. Bad precedent thst Democrats will use against conservative groups. Protest abortion? Banned. Protest election result? Banned.
pro-Hamas protesters placed on the No-Fly list
quote:Yes! Foreign students are welcome to come here and get educated. Protesting against the US isn’t welcomed.
and student visas revoked.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:16 pm to Nikki_T
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The No Flights For Terrorists Act, that would put any individual including: students, faculty, professors, or paid agitators, on the No Fly List if they have called for violence against Jewish people, pledged allegiance to U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations, or have been subject to disciplinary action by the institution of higher education related to such action
https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/2024/5/blackburn-marshall-introduce-measure-to-put-pro-hamas-terrorist-agitators-on-faa-no-fly-list
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:19 pm to Liberator
When will people learn that laws they love that hurt ideas and people they hate will without question be aimed at them one day.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:47 pm to Nikki_T
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Calling for violence against Jewish people is NOT regular speech, it is a threat of violence
Again. I said regular speech. The bill text wasn't posted so who knows.
History has shown that if a bill is named something then it actually does the opposite
Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:05 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Yeah so let's pass a law that criminalizes speech. Give me a break
When you prosecute the pro hamas protesters, you are not doing it because of their speech.
You are not doing it because the protested.
You are not even doing it because they are supported terrorists.
When you prosecute pro hamas protesters you are doing it because they were trespassing.
You do it because they were assaulting or harassing other people.
Or because they were destroying things.
Or because you they were breaking and entering.
Or because they were blocking traffic.
Or because they were blocking pedestrians right to walk.
Or for any number of other violations even as pretty as littering. Those zones are trashed after they move in.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:10 pm to Nikki_T
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Under a new bill being proposed by Sen Marsha Blackburn will have pro-Hamas protesters placed on the No-Fly list and student visas revoked.
I approve 100%!
The bill is appropriately called:
No Flights for Terrorists Act
DC wouldn’t hesitate to do that to you as well
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:46 pm to HailToTheChiz
Yea.. vandalizing buildings and disrupting classes on college campuses is suuuuuuuuch free speech. Give me a fricking break
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:51 pm to SixthAndBarone
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What happens when the dems claim MAGA is a terrorist group? Will Republican supporters be on no fly list?
Very few here seem to understand this. I’m fine with revoking student visas for any person in the US on one who is convicted of a crime, like trespassing, but to revoke their student visa for protesting? Come on.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:53 pm to Nikki_T
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Calling for violence against Jewish people is NOT regular speech, it is a threat of violence.
As an adamant supporter of Israel (I’m an evangelical) speech should never be a crime. Actions are crimes not speech. None of it.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:56 pm to Nikki_T
What is the criteria for the punishment? I expect it’s conviction of a crime?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:57 pm to Nikki_T
I’d like to see every, single person here illegally (or expired VISA) removed
And then moratorium on any new citizens until immigration is fixed.
And then moratorium on any new citizens until immigration is fixed.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:59 pm to SixthAndBarone
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What happens when the dems claim MAGA is a terrorist group? Will Republican supporters be on no fly list?
Stop worrying about reaping, we’re sowing right now! HAIL TRUMP! HAIL ISRAEL!
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:12 pm to Nikki_T
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on the no-fly list if they have called for violence against Jewish people
Why only Jewish people?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:19 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Save the list for threats. Not protesters.
If you’re gullible enough to protest supporting Hamas, you are a threat
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