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Variations in Human Intelligence vs Animal Intelligence

Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:28 am
There are a few very smart humans and many many very dumb humans...do you think there is as significant levels of variation in the animal kingdom?

Not comparing primates to lizards...but do you think there are a few very smart zebras and then a bunch of average zebras and some dumb arse zebras?

I would assume there is a pretty tight average intelligence in the animal kingdom without wild fluctuations like humans.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:29 am to
I’ve seen a dog eat something nasty, throw it up, eat the vomit, and throw up again.

There are definitely animals that are more stupid than others.
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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There are definitely animals that are more stupid than others.


again...im not comparing one species to another...im asking within the same species...you're one of the dumb humans that doesn't excel at reading comprehension.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:32 am to
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:34 am to
Why would they be different than us in variation? I would think it is the same.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:35 am to
There some humans that are very high already on this Friday.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:38 am to
How would you identify this? By outcomes?
Posted by Datbawwwww
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:39 am to
Absolutely, look at dog competition for example, not every border collie can do that; look at the way different pods of killer whales hunt; There is a reason a prized buck is so hard to harvest, they are big old and smart.
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:39 am to
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Why would they be different than us in variation? I would think it is the same.


IDK. I guess i would just assume that being 'in the wild" and constantly under threat of being eaten would quickly weed out the dumb and reinforce the average. Humans live in too much leisure and dumb are allowed to procreate.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:40 am to
As a general rule and on a relative scale, you can't really characterize wild animals as intelligent. They don't really know why they do what they do. They're driven by instinct and they all (within a given species) have the same instincts.

The determining factor in their individual survival is physical health and instinct, not intelligence. The strong survive, not the smart. None of them are smart.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 11:44 am
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:41 am to
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There is a reason a prized buck is so hard to harvest, they are big old and smart.


Is it because they are smarter or just bigger stronger faster?
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:43 am to
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The strong survive


Agreed.

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None of them are smart.


Could not disagree more.

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you can't really characterize wild animals as intelligent.


This is such a human hubris way of thinking its crazy
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:47 am to
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again...im not comparing one species to another...im asking within the same species
Dogs are the same species.
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:48 am to
The old song line comes to mind:

"All the monkeys aren't in the zoo, every day you meet quite a few."
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:48 am to
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There are a few very smart humans and many many very dumb humans


This isn’t true. IQ distribution is pretty standard along the bell curve.
Posted by sidewalkside
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:50 am to
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This isn’t true. IQ distribution is pretty standard along the bell curve.


You've taken the woke bait hook line and sinker...
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:51 am to
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As a general rule and on a relative scale, you can't really characterize wild animals as intelligent. They don't really know why they do what they do. They're driven by instinct and they all (within a given species) have the same instincts.
I disagree, there are several species that we could call "intelligent". Many apes, octopuses, dolphins, dogs, etc. They can all learn to manipulate their environment. Lots of animals can make and use tools in novel ways, and set and achieve goals. When a dog decides to go inside and then flips a latch handle to open the door, I think that's much more intelligence than instinct.
Posted by Auburn80
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:54 am to
I had a step ladder laying on my back deck. One dog ran around it and into the backyard. The other stopped and stared at it trying to figure out what to do.
Posted by 4x4tiger
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:56 am to
I've always said animals have more sense than people. I mean, look around
Posted by Datbawwwww
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:56 am to
Definitely intelligence. They move at different times, the way they feed, chase a doe, they behave very differently than younger bucks.
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