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re: 9th Circuit strikes down 18 USC 922(g)(1) (Felon-Firearm Law)
Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:30 pm to finchmeister08
Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:30 pm to finchmeister08
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if you have done your time and are free from prison, you're a free man that should be free to practice all rights granted by the constitution.
Having your right to vote and own a firearm suspended indefinitely is part of the "paying your debt to society" in my opinion. There are mechanisms to petition the court to reinstate each of these rights if you've been out of jail for many years and never reoffended and got your shite together. Those rights are almost always reinstated in those cases.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:32 pm to deeprig9
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Having your right to vote and own a firearm suspended indefinitely is part of the "paying your debt to society" in my opinion.
In Louisiana a felon can vote again after 5 years of completing the sentence/parole or probation. It should be the same when it comes to owning a firearm, especially for nonviolent crimes.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:42 am to deeprig9
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Having your right to vote and own a firearm suspended indefinitely is part of the "paying your debt to society" in my opinion.
Serving time may not necessarily mean completely paying your debt to society. Should a rapist or murderer let out after 20 years get to vote or own a gun? Absolultley not in my book. What if that rapist or murderer had their charges knocked down a bit because they rolled over on a fellow suspect and they got out even earlier?
Losing voting and gun rights is as much a punishment to one person as it is a warning to all not to be a serious criminal.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:55 am to deeprig9
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Having your right to vote and own a firearm suspended indefinitely is part of the "paying your debt to society" in my opinion
Scenario #1: A man who has served his country on multiple combat tours deploying every weapon known to man against hostiles comes back home and gets in a bar fight and is charged and convicted of a felony assault…he loses his right to now carry legally even a .22LR or vote for the same bozos who sent him overseas to use heavy artillery on the sol called “enemy”.
Yep, he just needs to pay more debt back to a society who could give a damn less about what he sacrificed for this same society.
People like you make me sad that you’re so pharisaical. When a person does their time, they need to come back into society with full rights so they have no impediments to get a job and fully participate.
If someone commits a premeditated murder or forcible rape or violence against a child/disabled/elderly, why are they being released?
Our criminal “justice” system is very flawed but so are all countries.
It’s a moral and sin issue and there needs to be direct accountability AND mercy. They’re not mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:13 am to deeprig9
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There are mechanisms to petition the court to reinstate each of these rights if you've been out of jail for many years and never reoffended and got your shite together. Those rights are almost always reinstated in those cases.
There is a federal law on the books that allows you to petition to reinstate firearms rights, but Congress has included budget language for the last several decades that prohibits ATF from spending a penny to carry out the law. The Supreme Court upheld the practice back in the 90s.
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