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The NSA existed before the Patriot Act, bless your hearts if you think PAct caused spying

Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:07 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13572 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:07 am
It pops up frequently on the board, the Patriot Act, the reconfirming vote on the Patriot Act.....the dreaded ominous, omnipotent PAAAAATRIOT ACT.

All it did was put legal lipstick on what was already happening.

You think all those buildings filled with banks and banks of hard drives are all storing Russian conversations, prior to the dreaded ACT?

Ah the world would be such a better place without the dreaded act. There would have been no russian collusion, no impeachments, no lawfare, no blackmailing of who knows how many individuals. There would be no NSA, FBI, CIA.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:10 am to
It did cause spying. Much more spying than before.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 6:14 am
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1174 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:11 am to
At least before the Patriot Act it was illegal.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30378 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:12 am to
You’re on a suicide mission this morning I see. You about to receive a volley of nucular missiles. Metaphorically speaking of course. No actual real missiles. And you know what? I’m gonna back you on this. I stand shoulder to shoulder with you, sergeant major. The reason for that is simple: because you’re exactly correct, no matter what anyone says.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25556 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:16 am to
Even at the time, even with all the terrorist mooslims hiding behind every corner and under each rock, I knew there was no real need for the Patriot Act. We were all sold a lie, just like how Saddam was 'stockpiling' WMD. Every massive Gov program or act is sold to the people on a lie. Whether it's the Patriot Act, ObamaCare or covid *vaccines.


Does no one remember Enemy of the State? Came out in 1998?









*There is no covid vaccine.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:17 am to
***The Echelon project quietly begins monitoring the chat...***
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
580 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:17 am to
quote:

trinidadtiger
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5069 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:33 am to
So Dubya shoved dynamite in a hole and the resulting crater is ok because there was already a hole?

Rail against all of it. Government overreach should be called out under every name.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
3148 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:38 am to
This was the most important thing you had to share today?

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:41 am to
This reeks of a W Bush simp thread.

Go read Body of Secrets and get back to me to know what the NSA’s real mission was pre-9/11.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
249 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:53 am to
Has any citizen challenged the patriot act on 4th amendment grounds? To me, it seems unconstitutional on its face.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11635 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:22 am to
Patriot Act was awful and unconstitutional and it has brought massive escalation to the violations of everyone's rights. You may think the NSA was doing stuff before, but not even remotely close to what started with the Patriot Act. They have filled and built new data warehouses in recent years. That did not take place in the years prior to the Patriot Act.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
616 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:11 am to
Most of the people who bleed from their vaginas over the Patriot Act think Snowden was a traitor and that having Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, etc record their every waking and non waking thought and action is perfectly normal because they "have nothing to hide".

Surveillance capitalism has infiltrated every aspect of our lives in 2024. Our cars, our phones, our homes, our work places, our cities, our banks, etc are all collecting and trafficking that data.

The feds don't even need the Patriot Act or FISA 702s or warrants anymore, they can just buy the same data for pennies from big tech and the data brokers.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56528 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

if you think PAct caused spying
Do you people get off on being dumbfricks?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22605 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:14 am to
PA was like a judge sentencing a mugger to multiple cycles of anabolic steroids as a condition of probation.
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