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re: The NSA existed before the Patriot Act, bless your hearts if you think PAct caused spying
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:01 am to davyjones
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:01 am to davyjones
Davy,
Thats my point.
Fellas, one of our own FISA judges, when reviewing the material Mike Rogers showed the court, said "in violation of the patriot act, repeat in violation of the patriot act, the NSA system had been illegally accessed 10s of 1000s of times by 100s of people who had no reason to be querying those questions.
Has it ramped up, sure it has, has the information age in general ramped up?
All I am saying is that cow left the barn when WW2 ended in 1945. Lets say we set up listening centers for the other five eyes to spy on Americans and then they gave us the info.....that wouldnt be illegal now would it, wonder if they thought of that before the Patriot Act????????
Thats my point.
Fellas, one of our own FISA judges, when reviewing the material Mike Rogers showed the court, said "in violation of the patriot act, repeat in violation of the patriot act, the NSA system had been illegally accessed 10s of 1000s of times by 100s of people who had no reason to be querying those questions.
Has it ramped up, sure it has, has the information age in general ramped up?
All I am saying is that cow left the barn when WW2 ended in 1945. Lets say we set up listening centers for the other five eyes to spy on Americans and then they gave us the info.....that wouldnt be illegal now would it, wonder if they thought of that before the Patriot Act????????
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:11 am to trinidadtiger
Most of the people who bleed from their vaginas over the Patriot Act think Snowden was a traitor and that having Apple, Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, etc record their every waking and non waking thought and action is perfectly normal because they "have nothing to hide".
Surveillance capitalism has infiltrated every aspect of our lives in 2024. Our cars, our phones, our homes, our work places, our cities, our banks, etc are all collecting and trafficking that data.
The feds don't even need the Patriot Act or FISA 702s or warrants anymore, they can just buy the same data for pennies from big tech and the data brokers.
Surveillance capitalism has infiltrated every aspect of our lives in 2024. Our cars, our phones, our homes, our work places, our cities, our banks, etc are all collecting and trafficking that data.
The feds don't even need the Patriot Act or FISA 702s or warrants anymore, they can just buy the same data for pennies from big tech and the data brokers.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:12 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Do you people get off on being dumbfricks?
if you think PAct caused spying
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:14 am to trinidadtiger
PA was like a judge sentencing a mugger to multiple cycles of anabolic steroids as a condition of probation.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:12 am to themunch
You literally have no frame of reference for what you’re talking about.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:23 am to Damone
Such a dumb arse and lame arse excuse. And that opens a can of worms, they label everything “national security” and violate our constitutional and human rights. Are you familiar with the forth amendment? Probable cause? Honest question… Because if there is probable cause that an individual or organization is a threat to national security, then get a warrant the right way and investigate. Blanket spying on law biding citizens is unconstitutional and illegal!
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:40 pm to Datbawwwww
You dipshit I’m not making the excuse, that’s the excuse the GOVERNMENT uses in court cases over it.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:13 pm to Damone
Damone, everyone knows you're a leftest loser. And you specifically made the statement, so you are apparently low iq as well. However, you failed to answer the question….. Also, I don’t believe this has ever been challenged up to the USSC on 4th amendment grounds. That’s was the original question I asked…
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