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re: How do you feel about young NY investment bankers being worked 80-100 weeks?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4933 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:22 pm to
You don’t hit 1M as VP so prob at least 6
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:46 pm to
VP I is around 550-600k TC which some of that may be in shares that need to vest over time and not cash. I went to T10 MBA and had 2 IB offers. It's like Associate 1 is 275k, II is 350k, Associate III is like 450k. This is total comp, not salary. If you leave mid year, don't get bonus. Some bonus may be in vesting shares (which only pay out over time to make you stay longer) and not cash, dependent on bank.

You're not quite at 1 mil at VP level.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 7:52 pm
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
772 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:57 pm to
Most MDs make it to that level at around 36-40 years old. They make plenty along the way, the director level one step below can make around $750k before MD status. The VP level can make anywhere from $400k-$650k if it’s a VP—>Director structure (some have the director before MD and some shops like GS don’t). Then it’s usually $1mm+ as MD or you are doing something wrong and shown the door.

It’s a tough road, with the most talented the past decade going off into the private equity or other high finance investment roles and not staying the IB track. Nowadays the lesser talents stick around to make it MD in banking, very few want to be in client service or they are the rare bird that loves it. It’s a shitty role and these guys look awful and are extremely cynical with the rare exception.

Bottom line, the real talent and those with intelligence end up going to invest money and make more usually - the donkeys that work hard stay the banking track and kill themselves bc there’s no other way they could make so much money with their talents or lack thereof.

I’m rambling - but with all that said, this poor guy was trying to give his a family a better life, was treating his role like a military mission and lost his life in the process. My heart breaks for his wife and beautiful kids. I donated to the go fund me as someone who has been thru the WS grind and young kids his age - it struck a chord with me.

No one should have to work that many hours in any role, he should’ve quit but they prob took advantage of his mindset.

frick B of A and frick Gary Howe this MD overseeing this deal and playing a role in this guys death. As an MD myself but on the investing side and thankfully not as some dumbass Ibank, I would never let one of my juniors do this and I would send that kid home to his family to get some damn sleep. Shameful.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:03 pm
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