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‘Seriously Underwater’ Home Mortgages Tick Up Across the US

Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by Areddishfish
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:45 am
archive today

Roughly one in 37 homes are now considered seriously underwater in the US and that share is much higher across a swath of southern states, according to data out Thursday.

Nationally, 2.7% of homes carried loan balances at least 25% more than their market value in the first few months of the year. That’s up from 2.6% in the previous quarter, according to the first-quarter 2024 US Home Equity & Underwater Report from ATTOM, a real estate data firm.

While the share of these homes is ticking up, it remains much lower than before the pandemic, when the rate was more than twice as high.

Mortgages can generally become seriously underwater when someone overpays for a home, or when it is purchased with a small downpayment that doesn’t provide a sufficient buffer if the property falls in value.

During the pandemic, government stimulus and rising property prices were a huge boon to homeowners, but higher interest rates meant to curb inflation may be finally be helping to cool the housing market.

Several southern states saw shares of seriously underwater homes grow more than the rest of the country. Kentucky’s share jumped to 8.3% in the first few months of the year from 6.3% in the previous quarter. West Virginia’s share rose to 5.4% from 4.4% over the same period, while Oklahoma climbed to 6.1% from 5.5%, and Arkansas went up to 5.7% from 5.2%.

The states with the biggest increase in number of seriously underwater homes are also in the south. Kentucky is in first place with a year-over-year jump of more than 20,500 homes - nearly twice as many as second-place Mississippi and Oklahoma, coming in third.

Among metro areas with a population of at least 500,000, Baton Rouge, La. had the largest share of seriously underwater mortgages in the first quarter, with 13.4%. Neighboring New Orleans came in second with 7.3%, followed by Jackson, Miss., and Little Rock, Ark., with 6.5% and 6%, respectively. Syracuse, NY came in fifth, with 5.6% of homes seriously underwater.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4317 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:46 am to
Good luck selling those houses at all time high prices!!
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
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27441 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:47 am to
Who gets the first bailout?
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:47 am to
I thought this was a Stout thread
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:55 am to
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While the share of these homes is ticking up, it remains much lower than before the pandemic, when the rate was more than twice as high.

Woah
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:57 am to
2008 all over again.

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
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38634 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:06 am to
Time for those cash flush west Texas boys to swoop in and save the day.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:07 am to
wait until they remove St George
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:14 am to
Used golf carts about to be cheap.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:15 am to
quote:

While the share of these homes is ticking up, it remains much lower than before the pandemic, when the rate was more than twice as high.



The OT baws read the headline but forget to read the article.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:17 am to
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homes carried loan balances at least 25% more than their market value


I wouldn't be able to sleep at night
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29555 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:19 am to
The waters are rising

The dams gonna break soon

Half of americans live check to check and another half can’t afford a $1,000 emergency

Can’t sell their underwater home. Can’t make car payments or rent or buy groceries .
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9930 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:21 am to
Of course they are..

Overpriced homes coupled with 7+% interest rates.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:25 am to
If youre in the house you plan on living in forever, does it matter much if you overpaid for it?

We(as in people) overpay for stuff all the time
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 10:26 am
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4350 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:25 am to
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homes carried loan balances at least 25% more than their market value


That must include HELCs (approved with some squirrely appraisals). Prices have not dropped enough for 1st mortgages to be at 125% LTV.

Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31807 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:41 am to
So people ran out to buy homes at massively inflated prices and are now upside down in them?

I’m SHOCKED at these revelations!
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:48 am to
frick that shite, I owe 7.5K on mine
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:04 am to
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Nationally, 2.7% of homes carried loan balances at least 25% more than their market value in the first few months of the year.



We are getting close to 2007 numbers. 2008 is when the bottom started to fall out. If Michael Burry starts shorting REI again hold onto your arse.

Big issue with negative equity loans are usually subprime short term with balloon payment. People want to refinance hoping the negative equity turns positive which it won’t in this market. People that financed at 4/5% 3 years ago are going to have to refi at 8/9% today. Note goes up 75% and they default. Same shite that happened in 2008. Banks never stopped MBS or CDO’s. We are headed there again I’m afraid.

I know someone in this situation and they won’t be able to afford refi.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31337 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:04 am to
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During the pandemic, government stimulus and rising property prices were a huge boon to homeowners, but higher interest rates meant to curb inflation may be finally be helping to cool the housing market.


Yeah, people went mental during the pandemic. People who didn't need to buy a new home suddenly decided they absolutely needed to buy a new home no matter the cost. There are tons of old threads on here with that exact situation.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2999 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:05 am to
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13.4%


This is insanely high.
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