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re: Florida deputy fatally shot US airman that answered the door with a gun
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:50 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:50 am to Jcorye1
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massive 4th amendment overreach, and judges rubber stamping warrants allowing for this shite
Reading comprehension. No warrant. No 4th Amendment issue. They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:54 am to jbgleason
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He answered with a gun in hand.
and?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:58 am to jbgleason
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Reading comprehension. No warrant. No 4th Amendment issue. They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.
I would argue going to the wrong apartment is definitely a 4th amendment issue, police just don't get to stop and/or harass random individuals. You're right on my warrant comment though.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:59 am to jbgleason
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Reading comprehension. No warrant. No 4th Amendment issue. They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.
Actually, the side we are hearing is they knocked twice, never responded to his questions of who it was; then kicked in the door when he had a gun in his hand.
If the statement is accurate, and they did not announce who they were or their presence; they will have an issue. Especially if they really did go to the wrong door. If they have body cam footage showing they announced who they were, had reason to believe it was the correct address, he refused to open, then they kicked in the door and it escalated; it will quickly vanish from the media.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:11 pm to jbgleason
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Reading comprehension. No warrant. No 4th Amendment issue. They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.
So I got massively downvoted on page one by all the "police kicked in the wrong door for no reason and murdered this guy" people. Turns out this was a Karen initiated situation in which they were called to a specific apartment. Knocked on the door and loudly announced their presence. Guy acknowledges its the police as heard verbally on the body cam. He then answers the door holding a gun and the officer shoots him WITHOUT entering the apartment (zero 4th Amendment issue there).
Someone is going to raise some kind of argument that its a 4th violation because of the Use of Force but we all know that isn't what they meant on page one.
You want to argue whether the officer was quick on the trigger or not? Go ahead. It's a valid argument. I think going the racial route is going to be Crump's angle though (duh) and that's a weak play.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:21 pm to jbgleason
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He answered with a gun in hand.
As would I if someone knocked on my door in the middle of the night. Wouldnt you?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:58 pm to jbgleason
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They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.
You knock on my door in the middle of the night the gun is either within a half step or in hand.
Meth heads exist.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:34 pm to jbgleason
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He answered with a gun in hand.
You don't?
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