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re: Is the serial killer obsolete today?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:00 am to DrrTiger
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:00 am to DrrTiger
The increased affordability and availability of household surveillance cameras has made it 1000x harder for people to get away with homicide. This goes for middle to upper-middle class neighborhoods.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:03 am
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:01 am to DrrTiger
Much harder to get away with it nowadays, but probably still possible.
I don’t think you could do it in the same manner as the past, would have to be some sort of long range murders with a rifle or something. If you get too close to the victim you risk shedding DNA and getting caught by genetic genealogy.
ETA: or you’d have to just kidnap transient folks and make it to where their bodies are never found.
I don’t think you could do it in the same manner as the past, would have to be some sort of long range murders with a rifle or something. If you get too close to the victim you risk shedding DNA and getting caught by genetic genealogy.
ETA: or you’d have to just kidnap transient folks and make it to where their bodies are never found.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:03 am to DrrTiger
Chances are much higher of getting caught, but I wouldn't say obsolete. It took a while to finally catch the Giglo Beach guy.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:03 am to DrrTiger
Shopping cart killer and Las Vegas serial stabber?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:05 am to Eighteen
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but leaving your phone at home, based on the times it’s left, would be strong evidence when looked at a different way
Something else has to point to you. Otherwise you just say "I was home that night".
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:06 am to DrrTiger
1. Buy a car from the early 2000's
2. NEVER bring a cell phone with you
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:07 am to DrrTiger
isn't there one possibly active in Austin right now?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:08 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Something else has to point to you. Otherwise you just say "I was home that night".
Well yeah. They’d have to have a reason to start looking at you, but if you say you were home that night and live in a city/suburb it would probably be easy to prove that you weren’t. I know if I leave my driveway I’m going to be on at least 3 cameras.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:10 am to fr33manator
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Prey on the homeless and kill by shooting them up with lethal doses of fentanyl.
It's no fun if you can't kill who you want how you want.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:10 am to Shexter
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1. Buy a car from the early 2000's 2. NEVER bring a cell phone with you
That’s a good start, but you’re still probably screwed if you leave behind any DNA. Not to mention surveillance cameras if you are ever suspected.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:11 am to DrrTiger
Long island serial killer.
Getting victims off of craigslist?
Caught him with cell phone records i think. i don't remember.
It's crazy to think there are some out there right now.
Getting victims off of craigslist?
Caught him with cell phone records i think. i don't remember.
It's crazy to think there are some out there right now.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:11 am to teke184
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Derek Todd Lee and Sean Gillis both operated for years in an era with DNA testing and increased surveillance.
Not really....
Both killed their victims in early 90's to early 00's.
Cell phones weren't out or were archaic at that point. no GPS, no Camera, no Camera surveillance at every store/intersection.
Now DNA WAS around and being used, but hardly the mass databases that we have today.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:12 am to Bestbank Tiger
But the victim will have a cell phone which might be tracked
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:12 am to DrrTiger
The different states and agencies being able to share information at the click of a mouse is huge in today’s world vs 40 years ago.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:14 am to Champagne
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Perhaps some of the serial killers who regularly post here on the OT or PT can describe for us how modern tech has adversely affected their ability to perform their craft.
Anybody? We're all friends here.
I got this one.
Luckily, we still live in a world where no one gives a shite about prostitutes, homeless people and hitch hikers.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:15 am to DrrTiger
Far from it. Even in 2024, the FBI estimates there are between 25-50 active serial killers in the United States at a given time.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:19 am to DrrTiger
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Watching a series on Ted Bundy last night, it struck me just how lucky the guy was to keep getting away with his crimes. Sure, he was “good” at being a serial killer, but how much of that is due to the era?
The biggest difference is that society cares about the people now that would have been the average serial killer victims then
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:19 am to Master of Sinanju
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Prey on the homeless and kill by shooting them up with lethal doses of fentanyl.
It's no fun if you can't kill who you want how you want.
I've learned to make compromises.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:20 am to Epic Cajun
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Well yeah. They’d have to have a reason to start looking at you, but if you say you were home that night and live in a city/suburb it would probably be easy to prove that you weren’t. I know if I leave my driveway I’m going to be on at least 3 cameras.
Yep.
Makes it harder for investigators. A dumb killer has his phone with him, so they eventually see whose phone was in the area of all the unsolved murders. Living in the country is easier because nobody sees you leaving and coming back.
The Idaho killer turned his phone off but that pointed to him even more. He was headed toward the crime scene before the killings, turned off his phone, then turned it back on after the killings while headed back home.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:20 am to DrrTiger
At the very least, there are far fewer crimes of opportunity. Cell phones and Life360 make it difficult. In the old days, you had a subhuman out driving around and would abduct teen girls/women/kids that were walking, had broken down vehicles, etc. Now, there are much fewer occurrences.
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