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Best position for Penning plus Saints Interior Offensive Line Discussion

Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:06 pm
Posted by TigerSaurus
Member since Apr 2024
49 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:06 pm

Penning needs someone flanked to his left and right on the OL …. to address his poor lateral movement and play recognition.

Playing at Guard means a lineman needs to pass directly over Penning: no option to take a long path around him to the QB.

Does he play LG or RG ?
RG is where your strongest run blocker plays. Penning is a mauler as a run blocker. I remember at one point in the season Penning had a 90+ PFF rating as a run blocker.

Who then plays LG ?
It’s either Ruiz or McCoy.
If Ruiz plays left guard…. we can hope his average play at RG maybe translates to average LG play.

Another Option: If the younger Ruiz moves to center.. his natural position… he has greater upside…again, he’s younger than McCoy.
If McCoy moves to LG… I believe his play will be much much better than the average play of Ruiz at left guard or right guard.

This is not optimum but it’s working within the players you currently have on the roster.

Fuaga is your right tackle and they must find a Left Tackle… it ain’t Penning.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72025 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:20 pm to
Penning-Udoh-McCoy-Ruiz-Fuaga

That’s your OL on day 1 of camp
Posted by TigerSaurus
Member since Apr 2024
49 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:24 pm to

Training camp may begin that way….

BUT……

That Interior Line is weak at both guard spots ….with a turnstile for a left tackle that will be benched , hopefully, before the QB gets killed.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17513 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:54 am to
I hope the new staff moves Ruiz back to center and moves McCoy to LG
Posted by blizzle
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2009
933 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:38 am to
What I've read is that McCoy has rejected that move, and I can't argue with it seeing as he's a Pro Bowler at his current position.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64466 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am to
McCoy's way of telling them "we need a better RG fellas". Let's just hope there is decent competition for the oline this year in camp.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1617 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

to address his poor lateral movement


This isn't a problem for Penning, he's extremely athletic

quote:

play recognition


This however is a major problem.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:41 pm to
trevor penning vs titans

Just watch the first play. It's supposed to be an inside run, and he lets his guy inside easily.

I blame both coaching and penning for these problems. I'm sorry, but the kid just seems extremely goofy and aloof. Maybe I'm reading him wrong. I just get the feeling that he struggles with the playbook
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5763 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:57 pm to
It’s not that easy to just move to guard like people think. Penning’s best and only chance is winning the LT spot. Athleticism is his last problem, he’s extremely athletic. It’s his technique and confidence that are shite. Ideally you go into week 1 with a starting OL of:

LT: Penning
LG: Saldiveri
C: McCoy
RG: Ruiz
RT: Fuaga
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:46 pm to
I've wondered for awhile if he could really develop if he spent way less practice time being an unrepentant a-hole trying to piss people off and get in fights (and get himself hurt) and more time cultivating actual skills that will help him adapt at this level.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64466 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:04 pm to
Good video. The worst of the coaching was approving that "yes he is ready to start game one"! Would love to ask anyone on the staff who approved that? Let's pray that it's addition by subtraction that improves our line. We have only two starters coming back next year.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1332 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:26 pm to
I do not understand this interest people have a replacing our pro bowl center with Ruiz. This "natural position" crap is nonsense. Ruiz has played guard more than he ever played center, and McCoy had played center more than he ever played guard. Our OL has enough problems without creating new ones.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72055 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:35 pm to
If Saldiveri is a guard, he’s 6’6”
Penning is 6’7”

Would be an interesting dynamic on the interior OL. Not sure there’s been a taller guard duo in the league
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64466 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 5:09 pm to
Maybe they just want to see 5 starters at all new positions
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56665 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

It’s not that easy to just move to guard like people think.


It happens a lot.

quote:

Penning’s best and only chance is winning the LT spot.


I think that chance is close to zero.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166484 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

our pro bowl center


McCoy sucks arse too.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5763 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:09 pm to
McCoy very much does not suck arse. He’s one of the best centers in the league.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12468 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:29 pm to
If Penning is the left tackle, the quarterbacks better take out life insurance.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166484 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:31 am to
quote:

He’s one of the best centers in the league.
. Top 20 ish for sure
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5639 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:40 am to
Best spot for penning is on another team hoping we can get a 5or 6th for him
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