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re: I can’t help but think a lot of people driving newer cars with upside down loans

Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:44 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8963 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:44 am to
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Check a Camry/Accord/Civic. Can buy a 2024 for less than $30k. You can other vehicles for that price, but they ain't gonna roll for 15 years/300k trouble free miles.


Bought a brand new civic in mid 2000s. Had nothing but issues. Ended up having at least two lawsuits filed because of the problems that Honda agreed to pay. Then later not long after it hit 100k miles, the block got a crack in it. All the maintenance was done regularly on it.

During that time Honda was criticized for their usual high quality sinking. Stayed away from them since then. Car before that was a Nissan SUV. Sure enough transmission went out at 130k miles. Engine ran strong long after.

Funny enough, my old man has a late 90s Chevy truck that’s has close to 400k miles on it. Never had any major engine issues.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 12:59 am
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11974 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:52 am to
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2012 Acura is still a nice car.


Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10181 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:58 am to
gotta keep up with the Joneses
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:16 am to
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one time she showed us the invoice for a Tahoe that was sold for 47K but the actual dealership price was $19375. Thats how much they are raping people with these vehicles


She is lying. .
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19403 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:36 am to
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upside down loans


< paid cash for a 2023 F150 STX

I work from home and only put about 5,000 miles a year on a vehicle, this one should last me 15-20 years.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7196 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:53 am to
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Mazda is cheap on steel quality


I have a Mazda RX8 and have had many Toyota's. Toyota are superior but the steel isn't want makes them better.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3843 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:09 am to
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I feel judged by those who drive high status vehicles, as if I’m not part of The Club.


Consider who is doing the judging. Some of the most brand-conscious people I know are wannabes and posers, or first generation money that will probably not translate to second. Not the type of folks you want to measure yourself against.

On the other hand, some of the most driven and awesome achievers I know, as well as the long term money guys, they may or may not drive something really nice but they keep it quiet. Measure yourself against those people and learn from them. They are sometimes quite willing to mentor and guide.

Also driving a 10yo Acura is how you move up. Reliable nice car, deprecation already happened. Rock on man.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:12 am to
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You won’t pay 47K for a used RAV4 with 30K miles on it,


I was considering a hybrid with 18k miles for $36k.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:14 am to
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Having grown up around the car business I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.



yeah, when I was in the car business, the dealership was fairly straight up. We werent allowed to lie. A good dealership, the salesman is more consulting than high pressure.

The saying among salesmen is "buyers are liars" and that is absolutely true.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6827 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:21 am to
Big difference between salesman and the financial manager who hides behind a screen in the back office.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4648 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Funny enough, my old man has a late 90s Chevy truck that’s has close to 400k miles on it. Never had any major engine issues.


Those 90s to early 2000s Silverados were great. I had one that had around 300k on it when I traded it. Whey didn't chevy just keep using that engine/transmission?
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
250 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:10 pm to
CVT’s also used in one of Japan’s military tanks.

Also used in a lot of yellow iron heavy construction equipment
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