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re: I can’t help but think a lot of people driving newer cars with upside down loans

Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:33 am to
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
859 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:33 am to
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I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.


For the most part cars aren’t impulse buys, they are a necessity.

Cars today don't last as long so new cars are replacing the ones going out of service. More drivers are added every year, which lead to more wrecks, higher repair costs lead to more cars being totaled, Government loans are re- directed to new car sales. They will always be a thriving new car market.

Thats why car dealership owners are very wealthy.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4648 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:34 am to
I don't understand why middle class people buy expensive vehicles. You can get a Camry for under $30k, it'll roll for 15 years and 300k trouble free miles.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7264 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:40 am to
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I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.


Me neither but apparently just the opposite is true...I heard this morning that Nissan sales were up 90% over last year which was the best year they had ever had. I know a man who has had a F250 on order for about a month and was told it would be 5-6 months. It is crazy.

I think it has a LOT to do with people feeling like the economy is in the dumper. They have bought or they trying to buy way more vehicle than they can afford and when it hits their personal pocketbook they cast about for something other than their own poor decision making. It applies to homes also...and even little items like that morning coffee or lunch. Living withing one's means is a big part of being happy but most people find doing so unpleasant......
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85115 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:43 am to
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I don't understand why middle class people buy expensive vehicles. You can get a Camry for under $30k, it'll roll for 15 years and 300k trouble free miles.


Because they like them?

Same reason some people buy a ribeye or a filet instead of eating ground beef.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24352 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:43 am to
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I can’t help but think with a combinations of high car prices, people paying over msrp the past 2 years, high interest rates, and depreciating of cars that the value of these newer cars are less than the loans. So if you sell it, you have to pay out of pocket to get rid of the damn thing. That’s wild.


Gap insurance is $5 or $6 a month. Dealerships are selling a lot of it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7264 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:43 am to
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I laugh at the Range Rover gals



Gorgeous vehicle's and as off road worthy as a factory vehicle gets but LOUSY reliability unless money is no object and you can let it sit in the shop about 25% of the time. My wife nearly bought one 5 years ago....she snapped out of it....thank goodness.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4287 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:45 am to
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I can't believe that sales haven't fallen off of a cliff.


People care far too much about what they drive.

Most sacrifice a nicer home for a nice depreciable car with high maintenance costs.

Such sound finance practices they display.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22513 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:45 am to
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Gap insurance is $5 or $6 a month. Dealerships are selling a lot of it.


Gap insurance is for accidents, doesn’t have anything to do with trading in your car.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:46 am to
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Bank of America and Chase will give you under 7%

Just a few years ago this statement would have sounded absurd

7% interest rates being the norm for people with good credit on a new vehicle is insane
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261402 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:47 am to
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Because they like them?



I;ve always found practicality saves me a hell of a lot of money and worry. I really dont need luxury level trim for a utility vehicle.

The one I just got has more junk on it than i 'll ever need.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28298 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:49 am to
Or, finance for 2.9 with nothing down, let your cash earn 5.5.

Depends on the vehicle and what rate you can get. Sometimes it makes better sense to pay cash, and be done with it.



Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124522 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:55 am to



Bad times ahead
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8035 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:55 am to
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10 yo Acadia it’s been $1700 and $2500


Well, it's an Acadia so...
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4648 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:01 am to
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Because they like them?

Same reason some people buy a ribeye or a filet instead of eating ground beef.


And then complain about not making a "livable wage." Rich folks should buy expensive vehicles, middle class and lower should buy Toyotas and Hondas.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1699 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:03 am to
Bro a sequoia is 82k. So Toyotas aren’t as inexpensive as you think.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27334 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:04 am to
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let your cash earn 5.5.


Who is offering 5.5% for cash savings? Serious question, looking into a high-yield account to store vacation funds, down payments and shite like that
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51364 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:08 am to
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It's 3.99 right now. Just bought from them a month ago


It’s 2.99, just bought from them 3 days ago
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124522 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:08 am to
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I think it has a LOT to do with people feeling like the economy is in the dumper.



Feeling like? They economy IS in the dumper.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15804 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:10 am to
I have a 2018 Corolla which I paid for new with cash. As soon as I got it I started saving for my next car. I prefer not to have a car payment or to pay interest. My car is pretty low maintenance. I have changed the oil, bought new tires, and bought a new battery.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8035 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:11 am to
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Who is offering 5.5% for cash savings?


Most likely a CD
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