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re: BI and Willie had an exchange during Game 2 according to Shams
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:36 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:36 pm to TigerinATL
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A big part of the problem with his fit here is he was handed the keys to the team when Jrue left, and with Zion's spotty availability/fitness, they've needed him to run the offense a lot. If he gets traded to a team where it's known from the start he's not the guy, I think you'll see a different Ingram that can take 6+ 3s a game like he did when he first got here. Look at what Dejounte Murray did in Atlanta. Ingram will adjust too when it's clear he isn't the #1 option.
I'm glad you're finally starting to speak on this, too. People have their opinions of me and will refuse even the simplest of logic from me because it doesn't support their instant emotions. To me, CJ is he piece causing problems. He is our point guard who can't handle lead guard duties when Zion goes down, so BI has ended up with a constantly changing role.
BI sucked in the playoffs, but there is a lot of context to that. At this point, it's clear he isn't carrying a team. That said, I really don't think we will find a more talented #2 to fit next to Zion. You may find a better fit, but it's likely a lesser talent. I think the relationship is too far gone, though.
And that brings me to Willie. If anyone should get the value for moving away from Borrego ball, it's the coach who decided to do just that. In addition, he alienated 2 of our 4 best players and basically put Griffin in a bad spot in regards to trade leverage. Your star doesn't need to demand a trade when your coach drives a wedge right down the middle of the locker room. Every GM in the league knows he wants out now. Frankly, I like Willie, and his family are really nice, genuine people, but this team better start out damn strong next year or he will lose the locker room (assuming he hasn't already).
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:09 pm to Jester
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I'm glad you're finally starting to speak on this, too. People have their opinions of me and will refuse even the simplest of logic from me because it doesn't support their instant emotions. To me, CJ is he piece causing problems. He is our point guard who can't handle lead guard duties when Zion goes down, so BI has ended up with a constantly changing role. BI sucked in the playoffs, but there is a lot of context to that. At this point, it's clear he isn't carrying a team. That said, I really don't think we will find a more talented #2 to fit next to Zion. You may find a better fit, but it's likely a lesser talent. I think the relationship is too far gone, though. And that brings me to Willie. If anyone should get the value for moving away from Borrego ball, it's the coach who decided to do just that. In addition, he alienated 2 of our 4 best players and basically put Griffin in a bad spot in regards to trade leverage. Your star doesn't need to demand a trade when your coach drives a wedge right down the middle of the locker room. Every GM in the league knows he wants out now. Frankly, I like Willie, and his family are really nice, genuine people, but this team better start out damn strong next year or he will lose the locker room (assuming he hasn't already).
It was reported that BI hated Borrego ball. So lets blame CJ and Willie for BI for sucking. It’s just this constant blame game for BI and those who support him. Everyone else’s fault but BI. I mean heck the only reason we got Willie is because BI didn’t want SVG either.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:55 am to Jester
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That said, I really don't think we will find a more talented #2 to fit next to Zion. You may find a better fit, but it's likely a lesser talent. I think the relationship is too far gone, though.
I agree.
I doubt we get back someone better than BI, although they may fit better, and i'm ok with that. BI is better than Dejounte Murray, but i think it's easy to see that we might be better if we swapped them out, and i think ATL would be better as well.
and i do think there's issues that happened to close the season that may be beyond fixing and BI doesn't want to be here anymore, and we also don't want him here anymore.
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