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Humichar as well as high potassium fert safe?

Posted on 5/7/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 12:48 pm
I have never applied humichar but I am thinking of adding to my soil soon, but based on soil tests will need to add high potassium fertilizer as well. Are these safe to apply this time of year, particularly late May?

Is humichar DG snake oil? Thoughts?
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 2:49 pm to
Can't comment on the snake oil part, but you should be safe to put HumiChar down at any time and as often as you want. From what I understand, it takes a longgggg time to provide changes in your soil - like years.
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:52 pm to
I was thinking of adding once a year, every year.....can't hurt I assume
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

I was thinking of adding once a year, every year.....can't hurt I assume

I think you should probably put it down more often than that if you want to see any appreciable changes. I'll let others chime in on the snake oil part, but everything I've read said that it's good stuff -- just takes awhile to amend the soil.
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:37 pm to
Thanks!! Guess we shall see.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:15 pm to
Humichar is not snake oil as long as you aren’t doing it for liquid aeration reasons. That and carbon pro g are good products
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:45 am to
I am.just trying to increase nutrients, health, microbial function of my soil. I debated topdressing with some compost but think I'm going the route of humichar this year.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:33 am to
ronk - thoughts on Dirt Booster to the lawn every couple months?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:53 am to
It is similar to humichar. It will improve overall heatlh of the soil.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125444 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:19 pm to
I used humichar all winter and threw down a 0-0-45 potash and I had the first fully green centipede lawn in the neighborhood by a few weeks.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27680 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:05 am to
I've wanted to try it but $90 for a 40 pound bag is a little salty after already buying fert, grub preventative, pre-emerg, post-emeeg, disease/fungus, etc.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:17 am to
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I've wanted to try it but $90 for a 40 pound bag is a little salty after already buying fert, grub preventative, pre-emerg, post-emeeg, disease/fungus, etc.

Agreed.

All Anderson's products are high dollar.
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1354 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:29 am to
I debated doing it this way too. Leading up to spring green up. Basically, soil amendment through winter into spring, but fert in late spring into summer.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18995 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:42 am to
quote:

I've wanted to try it but $90 for a 40 pound bag is a little salty after already buying fert, grub preventative, pre-emerg, post-emeeg, disease/fungus, etc.



I'm seeing this at Site One:
LESCO CarbonPro-G Soil Optimizer (QGCY) 40 lb.
Maximizes turf recovery and mitigates effects from environmental and cultural stressors
Enhances turf greening
Increases nutrient uptake and utilization efficiency (improves return on current nutrient investment.
Optimizes pH, salinity, and CEC

YOUR PRICE
$32.63 / Each
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:26 am to
Compare the labels on both to see what is actually inside each bag?

That may or may not explain some of the difference in cost.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36887 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:23 pm to
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It is similar to humichar. It will improve overall heatlh of the soil.

I've used Dirt Booster every couple months for the past 8-10 months. Mushrooms are everywhere right now so it must be a good sign.
Thanks
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18995 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:16 am to
You might be interested in this kind of thing.
Root development after a summer of testing products.
This guy is in NC.

Humic test plot update:

quote:

Disclaimers: In fairness to Matt, I suspended the Carbon-X test for part of the season to work on a phosphorus deficiency. Also, the GCF products had a one month head start on K4L's Extreme Blend.

Root pictures below. Most of these had more root mass than pictured, but the soil was pretty sticky so some root mass came off in the wash unfortunately. I would say each of these had some roots in the 4"+ depth despite the terrible soil. The Air-8 sample was easier to clean than the others due to noticeably better soil tilth (not crumbly infield clay, but better than the others), which IMO lead to more intact root mass for the picture. If that continues through next year, I will conclude Air-8 is worth my money for the soil tilth improvements. Anecdotally I'm happy with the Air-8 results, though I still don't know how the science holds up.

The cores were all pretty easy to pull, but we've had a good bit of rain lately too. There's still no difference in visual appearance across the test plots (this has been true throughout the season - not due to the recent rainfall). The next tests will be fall/winter color and spring green-up. Will provide a picture closer to dormancy.




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This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:18 am
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