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Elite defense can change a game. Create fumbles, interceptions, sacks. Look at les miles. Had great defenses and couldn't get a quarterback that threw more than two hundred yards except mettenburger. But still won 10 games and one natty.

1. CFB is extremely different today than it was the last time Les Miles won 10 games.

2. The last time LSU won 10 games under Miles, we had the best passing offense in school history.

3. When Les Miles won a national championship, LSU had an innovative offense based out of the spread with two quarterbacks who could hurt you with their legs and arm, 3 NFL wide receivers, an NFL running back, an NFL full back, 3 NFL offensive lineman, and an NFL tight end.

The 2011 team was a top 20 scoring offense with NFL stars all over the field on offense.

This idea that LSU was competitive with "just a strong defense" under Miles is false. When Miles had bad offenses (2008, 2009, 2014, 2015, 2016) LSU was a bad football team.

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Posted by J2thaROC

Member since May 2018

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Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:36 am to PP7 for heisman

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This idea that LSU was competitive with "just a strong defense" under Miles is false. When Miles had bad offenses (2008, 2009, 2014, 2015, 2016) LSU was a bad football team.

No. It’s not an “idea” it’s a fact that Les could not build a consecutively good offense. He had spots here and there that were good but the majority of his time at LSU our offense was horrible. Les thought the only responsibility of the QB was to hand the ball off left or right on a toss dive. He had no clue what to do with QBs.

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Posted by King Joey

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Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:26 am to PP7 for heisman

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When Miles had bad offenses (2008, 2009, 2014, 2015, 2016) LSU was a bad football team.

In my opinion, the real truth lies in why that statement is wrong. In none of those seasons was LSU a "bad" football team. They were significantly better than average, in fact, posting 8+ win seasons in what was BY FAR the most competitive division of BY FAR the most competitive conference in the country. What none of them were was elite. And there's the rub. Elite defense gives your team a higher floor; elite offense gives your team a higher ceiling. Both can (with a great deal of luck) produce championships when paired with even above average competence on the other side of the ball. And both can produce really good (10+ win) seasons even without competence on the other side. But an elite defense with an atrocious offense will very rarely put you below 7 or 8 wins; an elite offense with an atrocious defense can easily fall below .500.

So it's kind of a "pick your poison" situation if you're proposing guaranteed excellence on just one side of the ball. Guarantee an elite offense, and you'll more likely see more championship seasons; guarantee an elite defense and you'll more likely see fewer losing seasons.