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"oracle of wall street" with another great idea. Home equity loans for vacation

Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted by ks_nola
Bozeman
Member since Sep 2015
502 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:07 pm
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suggests letting freddie mac give out home equity loans for people to use for vacations, weddings etc all to stimulate the economy without gov'ment spending.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2112 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:10 pm to
Great for the government, terrible for the people doing it
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7334 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:13 pm to
You can already do that. What am I missing with this suggestion?
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
1394 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:14 pm to
Those who do this are those that should not be doing this.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4126 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Meredith Whitney, the one-time “Oracle of Wall Street”

the CEO of Meredith Whitney Advisory Group


Banking on that title, she made a series of other “bold calls” after her one-hit wonder about 15 years ago, most notably the failure of the muni bond market (wah wah). They were all damp squibs. Last I heard, she folded her hedge fund back in 2015 or 2016, about a year after launching it, and has just been doing the talking head circuit since then.

No one is perfect. But she’s not someone whose opinion I’d put a lot of faith in.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51792 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:55 pm to
Because consumers don't have enough debt already?


Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
2113 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 5:14 pm to
sounds like he wants to steal some homes
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4681 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:40 pm to
Holy shite, what a horrible idea. But hey, while you're at it, why not take a 401k loan to buy a boat and an ATV. If you're gonna live, live it up right!!!
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72916 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11455 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

suggests letting freddie mac give out home equity loans for people to use for vacations


I’ve done some dumb financial shite in my time, this is next level.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30606 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

"oracle of wall street"

Wishes she was Buffett and is trying to profit off the comparison
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
127 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:19 am to
Not the only crazy person advocating stuff like this. FHFA currently has proposed rule change now under comment to allow Freddie and Fannie to get into the second mortgage game. So now you the taxpayer can back someone consolidating high interest (ie high risk) consumer loans into a second mortgage. And we know the treasury will back Fannie and Freddie if crap goes down.

Wall St. Journal quote:
“Housing godzillas Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are threatening the countryside again, and better hide the children. It’s not enough that taxpayers stand behind their $7.5 trillion in mortgages. Now Freddie wants taxpayers to back second mortgages—i.e., de facto consumer loans. What could go wrong?”

Go here to FHFA to read the rule:
LINK

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68406 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Not the only crazy person advocating stuff like this. FHFA currently has proposed rule change now under comment to allow Freddie and Fannie to get into the second mortgage game. So now you the taxpayer can back someone consolidating high interest (ie high risk) consumer loans into a second mortgage. And we know the treasury will back Fannie and Freddie if crap goes down.

Wall St. Journal quote:
“Housing godzillas Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are threatening the countryside again, and better hide the children. It’s not enough that taxpayers stand behind their $7.5 trillion in mortgages. Now Freddie wants taxpayers to back second mortgages—i.e., de facto consumer loans. What could go wrong?”



Ah, yes. Because nothing bad ever happened when the banks gave ARM and balloon interest only mortgages out like candy during early-mid 2000s when rates were low then increased again to subprime borrowers on homes they otherwise could not afford with little to almost nothing down.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 7:46 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14257 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 12:56 pm to
Unlike the Federal Govt, we actually have to pay our loans back.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4509 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
Sounds like a great way to increase foreclosures and distressed sales so private investors can snap up more single family homes.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15697 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:24 pm to
Are they going to insure these home equity loans up to 100% LTV?

Or can we just stop being stupid and let consumption decline and normalize?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35392 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

suggests letting freddie mac give out home equity loans for people to use for vacations


I’ve been doing this for the last 3 years. You just need a contractor friend that can draw up some bs plans.
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