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Telling a begginer to “start from the hole and work back” is bad advice
Posted on 5/5/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 5/5/24 at 3:58 pm
The old adage goes something like “that 300 yd drive you hit is worth as many strokes as that 3ft putt you missed”.
While true, I think telling beginners to work mostly on shots around and on the green and not the driver is bad advice, nothing balloons a score like poor tee shots. Nothing will get someone to stop playing golf like not being able to make solid contact with longer clubs.
IMO beginners should spend most of their time learning how to hit driver well and make solid contact with mid-irons. Sure they might suck with wedges and at chipping and putting, but they’ll at least be able to advance the ball and feel like they can play. Once they get that feeling then they should work on score saving things like chipping and putting.
If they work more on chipping and putting than they do getting the ball into play off the tee, they’ll just end up putting/chipping for double bogey all the time, and they’ll be more frustrated miss hitting and shanking shots that they think they should be hitting further.
This probably does not apply to young children who are learning.
I base this advice on no data and this is a 100% anecdotal opinion but I think I’m right
While true, I think telling beginners to work mostly on shots around and on the green and not the driver is bad advice, nothing balloons a score like poor tee shots. Nothing will get someone to stop playing golf like not being able to make solid contact with longer clubs.
IMO beginners should spend most of their time learning how to hit driver well and make solid contact with mid-irons. Sure they might suck with wedges and at chipping and putting, but they’ll at least be able to advance the ball and feel like they can play. Once they get that feeling then they should work on score saving things like chipping and putting.
If they work more on chipping and putting than they do getting the ball into play off the tee, they’ll just end up putting/chipping for double bogey all the time, and they’ll be more frustrated miss hitting and shanking shots that they think they should be hitting further.
This probably does not apply to young children who are learning.
I base this advice on no data and this is a 100% anecdotal opinion but I think I’m right
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:21 pm to Tiger1242
This is pretty well stated in every shot counts. But, it’s common sense, my wife has a lot better chance of matching me or hitting a 10 ft putt closer than me than she does from 210 with water short and a bunker right.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:46 pm to Tiger1242
Honestly i used to think just hitting driver as far as possible and getting as close as possible was key.. but I now look at shots that leave me a full swing into the green as opposed to half or quarter shots.. I tend to frick a 60 yard shot more so than a 100 yarder.
So to am extent, yes working your way out isn't a bad way to do it..I know guys that can bomb drives and not play worth a shite 150 and in and guys that hit shorter drives and can drop dimes from 100ish out.. which one you think scores better..
So to am extent, yes working your way out isn't a bad way to do it..I know guys that can bomb drives and not play worth a shite 150 and in and guys that hit shorter drives and can drop dimes from 100ish out.. which one you think scores better..
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:56 pm to Tiger1242
Nup. 150 yards & closer, including putting will DRASTICALLY improve a score, regardless of an errant tee shot. Ask any professional.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:44 pm to Tiger1242
I don't consider any single club "the most important" but to me there is a group of 3 or 4 clubs that are WAY more important than the rest - Driver, Gap/Sand Wedge, Lob Wedge, Putter.
I don't get a lot of practice only time at the range (usually my range time is before or after a round) but if I do, I'm only hitting driver and wedges. Getting better with those clubs drastically improves scores quicker.
I don't get a lot of practice only time at the range (usually my range time is before or after a round) but if I do, I'm only hitting driver and wedges. Getting better with those clubs drastically improves scores quicker.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:11 pm to Tiger1242
This is a terrible take for a number of reasons but the primary reason is you thinking
What all beginners don't understand, if you can learn to rock your shoulders on a bump and run, struck consistently, with an average circumference from the hole you will be a significantly better golfer than one that hits the ball 300 yards (and you don't). This motion translates into the full swing and helps train you to make a better motion vs trying to smash it down the fairway accurately. That motion doesn't lead to better mechanics around the green, its actually quite the opposite.
Your point is not only bad advice but the reason that beginners never get better. They focus on the only part of the game that doesn't make other parts better whereas practicing and perfecting the smallest part of the game makes you significantly better.
quote:isn't bettered by practicing short game.
nothing balloons a score like poor tee shots
What all beginners don't understand, if you can learn to rock your shoulders on a bump and run, struck consistently, with an average circumference from the hole you will be a significantly better golfer than one that hits the ball 300 yards (and you don't). This motion translates into the full swing and helps train you to make a better motion vs trying to smash it down the fairway accurately. That motion doesn't lead to better mechanics around the green, its actually quite the opposite.
Your point is not only bad advice but the reason that beginners never get better. They focus on the only part of the game that doesn't make other parts better whereas practicing and perfecting the smallest part of the game makes you significantly better.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 5:46 pm to Tiger1242
I’m sort of a beginner. For me, I started really improving when I stopped trying to play from the white tees. I now play from whatever the shortest tees are red/green. Obviously my scores improved because I shortened the course by about 2000 yards. But my game improved. Without the pressure of trying to not hold up the people behind me and the ones o might be playing with, the game is fun, not stressful. I don’t take mulligans and I play strictly by the rules. I have scored 100 twice now, when I break 100 I will move back a box. Rinse/repeat. I have found that which club doesn’t matter, you have to be able to strike the ball well and get consistent. Just my 2c
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:24 pm to Tiger1242
I mean, initially, that’s where the strokes are quickly made up, but once your HC starts creeping down, it’s all about 100 yards and in.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:03 pm to Tiger1242
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Tiger1242
You are being downvoted to hell, but I think I agree with you.
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