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re: Windhorst says Philly is monitoring the Brandon Ingram situation

Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6694 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:36 pm to
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Is that why the Wizards had to give up 6 2nd round picks and 4 pick swaps to send Bradley Beal and his 4/$200M contract to Phoenix?

NO. It was the Wizards that recieved 6 2nd round picks and 4 1st round pick swaps for a guy with $200M left on his contract that had missed 32, 42, 22, and 15 games a year the last 4 years that shot 34.5% from 3 during that time as one of the most inefficient chuckers in the league.


Most smart NBA people at the time thought it was a very stupid trade for Phoenix.

I thought it was terrible and my post history will show that.

But you are correct, it only takes one team to think that a distressed asset of a negative player (Beal, Westbrook, etc.) could be the missing piece.

However, my personal opinion is that no one holds Ingram in that high of regard. Beal is a non-winning player who still put up much better stats than BI.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
894 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 4:57 pm to
In general, us fans have absolutely no clue what execs think the value of a player is. It happens all the time, where a team overpays or underpays for a player. It isn’t all random. Someone is setting the market for them.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25871 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:07 pm to
The cap will continue to rise significantly over the next 2 years, almost 10% jumps into 2026 and 2027 each. BI's contract will not be that terrible. He's still a really good player, and he's still young. We saw a huge jump in his defense and rebounding effort this year. No one was bitching about him before he got hurt with 12 games left b/c he was playing well and the team was playing like a top 5 team in the league.


I'd prefer if we traded both BI and CJ, but I dont think that's realistic with our idiot GM. If we can't find a good deal for BI, then you have to resign him, and if that happens, then CJ needs to be on the move for a legit PG. I"m sorry but CJ's defense is just too bad. It's not only bad one on one, but he seems just as bad off the ball and understanding schematically what we are trying to do.
You get BI off the ball, Zion as well, and have a real PG that sets them both up and I think we'd be better off.
BI had great points per possession stats coming off screens as well as dribble handoffs this year, both significantly higher than Zion and CJ. He was also more effecient in the post than Zion was in regards to points per possession.
BI was in the 57th percentile in the league in efficiency for ISO possessions, and CJ was even worst in just the 40th percentile (higer the better). ZIon was 75th percentile for ISO.
BI was a much more effecient player of the ball than on the ball, which is proven by his stats coming off screens, dribble handoffs, and post ups all being a good bit higher than his ISO and PNR as the ball handler stats.

2 dribbles or less and BI shoots 60% on 2's and 36% on 3's.
3+ dribbles and he drops to under 50% on 2's, and that's over half of his
total attempts per game this past year.


It might not be a terrible thing to move CJ and get a real PG, if that's possible to find.
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