re: Hamas leader describes how they didn’t kill any civilians on Oct 7

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just to take hostages, but a number of regular citizens broke through and are the ones who went apeshite.

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A couple of things here:

1) rationalizing that grabbing some hostages as opposed to a killing spree, constitutes a legitimate action is nonsense.

2) if Hamas opened the gates, it effectively gave the green light to the regular citizens. That's still on Hamas.

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There is a whole rabbit hole of the IDF gunning down people, but no one here will listen.

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Reports of confusion and the IDF shooting its own citizens were not hard to find in the days following the attack. And in the chaos of the moment, that is not difficult to believe. But the notion that Hamas "killed no one" and the deaths are a function of the IDF mowing down all of these citizens is silly on its face.

Don't be a Hamas apologist. They were on just about everyone's list of terrorist organizations until they won elections in Palestine. ..and for good reason.