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re: Israelis release video about Oct 7: Screams Before Silence

Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:30 am to
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but Israel's response is justifiable.
how can israel be in the wrong if their response is justified? its wrong or its not. In this case im going with not. place needs to be wiped off the map.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:37 am to
Did you gloss over this:

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Sadly, Israel can't pinpoint strictly Hamas activists and supporters with flawless precision and accuracy. We also know that Hamas uses innocent civilians as shields and purposefully "camps out" in bunkers of schools, hospitals, and the like. Israel is going to have "blood on its hands" due to that, but Israel's response is justifiable.


More so, if there are some purposeful killings or harm of innocent citizens (which there may be), then Israel would be in the wrong. Sadly, it's very difficult thing to discern.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:46 am to
This is a problem that needs to be eradicated completely. If they focus on just taking out hamas then something else will just spring up in its place. Theyve given ample opportunity for those that dont want to be involved with this to get out. Anyone that has chosen to stay this long is willingly choosing to accept whatever outcome happens.

seeing those clowns celebrate in the streets as prisoners/bodies were being paraded around gaza told me all i needed to know about those "innocent civilians".
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:25 am to
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This is a problem that needs to be eradicated completely. If they focus on just taking out hamas then something else will just spring up in its place.


So, are you promoting genocide? And if so, is it just Gaza? The Palestinian territories? All Muslim people?

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Theyve given ample opportunity for those that dont want to be involved with this to get out. Anyone that has chosen to stay this long is willingly choosing to accept whatever outcome happens.


I don't think it's quite that easy. It's probably challenging to get to let's say Egypt. Israel wraps around it to the north and east.

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seeing those clowns celebrate in the streets as prisoners/bodies were being paraded around gaza told me all i needed to know about those "innocent civilians".


Those were Hamas militants, not "innocent civilians." I have a hard time fathoming that every single Gazan or Palestinian is wholly supportive of Hamas and its actions. What about the 2 year old toddler or the 8 year old little girl? Are they not an innocent civilian in this?
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:45 am to
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So, are you promoting genocide? And if so, is it just Gaza? The Palestinian territories? All Muslim people?
it’s hard to say no to this
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:45 am to
If i wanted genocide I would be saying all palestinians regardless of if they stayed or not need to be wiped out. Im saying those that are choosing (clearly children arent choosing to stay there, that choice is being made for them) to remain need to be assumed to be combatants because theyve chosen to stay regardless of being given ample opportunity to distance themselves from the situation.
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:46 am to
great point
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:47 am to
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Those were Hamas militants, not "innocent civilians."
one of the clips showed what looked like a 12 year old boy spitting on a body passing him by.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4184 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:51 am to
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Im saying those that are choosing (clearly children arent choosing to stay there, that choice is being made for them) to remain need to be assumed to be combatants because theyve chosen to stay regardless of being given ample opportunity to distance themselves from the situation.


Got it. That's where I'm at with:
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Both are in the wrong .... Sadly, Israel can't pinpoint strictly Hamas activists and supporters with flawless precision and accuracy. We also know that Hamas uses innocent civilians as shields and purposefully "camps out" in bunkers of schools, hospitals, and the like. Israel is going to have "blood on its hands" due to that, but Israel's response is justifiable.


Israel's justifiable response will undoubtedly result in the deaths of innocent people, chiefly kids and children. It's unavoidable, unfortunately.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:53 am to
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one of the clips showed what looked like a 12 year old boy spitting on a body passing him by.


I don't doubt that, and he was more likely than not a Hamas recruit / militant. Terrorist organizations are known to recruit and utilize young adults.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:57 am to
Watching this, it makes me wonder why the Israelis haven't set up bulldozers from the south Gaza border all the way to the north... like one every 20 feet or so - and just start driving them all the way west... all the way to the sea.

Tell the people there that they better get out the way because they're not stopping. Just go all the way. As long as it takes. Until there's nothing left.

Then I'd host the music festival again except 50x larger. And put it on former Gaza land.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:33 pm to
I watched the whole thing last night. I didn’t think it was well made. It seemed almost like propaganda. Did anyone anywhere doubt the women were raped? That has happened in war since history began. It’s not a news flash that humans will behave like this. Hutu/tutsi nazi/jewish etc. I doubt the IDF practices anymore restraint when they think they can get away with it. War is wrong and war is bad. Until humans figure that out the same shite will happen in perpetuity. Making a film to try to shock people into taking a side is just another tool in warfare. If you are truly righteous you won’t need a film to prove it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Did anyone anywhere doubt the women were raped?

Some people, including elected representatives in our government, wholesale deny it happened. So, yes......people doubt there were rapes.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:57 pm to
Lots of pro life, Christians advocating for the slaughter of innocent children. Thankfully, ending a post with “War is hell” cancels out all the hypocrisy and psychotic thoughts.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Some people, including elected representatives in our government, wholesale deny it happened. So, yes......people doubt there were rapes


If that’s the case, I don’t think this video will convince them otherwise. I am sure it happened but I am also sure that no army anywhere has behaved with total integrity. Killing another human isn’t right. There is no excuse for war.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:01 pm to
What do you think the solution to this is?
Posted by au4you
Alabama
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:07 pm to
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What do you think the solution to this is?
If you think the only solution is to completely destroy Gaza and kill every single person in it, then I think you might be too far gone to reason with.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:18 pm to
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95% of those civilians just want to work and support their families. Get real man


How naive can you be
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Lots of pro life, Christians advocating for the slaughter of innocent children.
just war theory

Get rid of the animals before they get rid of you
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:34 pm to
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You think like an animal.



You think like someone who's never been punched in the nose. Violence doesn't give two shits about your "rights". Those rights are only as solid as the strength of those who protect them, and you. For most of the history of life on this planet "the strong survive" has been the way. When it comes down to it, this will always be the default.

This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 3:36 pm
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