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re: City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:54 pm to TigerFan244
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:54 pm to TigerFan244
I like the theory and the fact that the Citizens won their independence.. It'll be a cluster at first, but if done right it should be much better than BR. This doesn't fix the demographics of the schools or pull in the private school children, but the bar is set low, don't see how they couldn't incrementally improve. My kids will never see a public school in this State, nor will many others.
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:56 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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JUSTICE OF PEACE/WRD CONSTABLE 69,610.10
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:00 pm to BayouBengalRubicon
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This doesn't fix the demographics of the schools or pull in the private school children, but the bar is set low, don't see how they couldn't incrementally improve. My kids will never see a public school in this State, nor will many others.
It works in a lot of other states. Take a city like Birmingham, for example. It's pretty analogous to Baton Rouge. The suburban areas surrounding Birmingham have really good public schools - Vestavia Hills, Mountain Brook, etc. - because they created ISDs and increased property taxes to fund the schools. Increased property taxes will result in a higher average income of property owners in the ISD which typically means more functional families.
The one thing St. George is kidding itself about is not having to increase taxes though. You want a high-functioning, suburban school district, you are going to have to increase property taxes.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:03 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:08 pm to TigerFan244
Potential for good.
A thriving city in EBR means that there is a chance for the parish to survive.
No city means, at best, people flee to other parishes if not other states.
A thriving city in EBR means that there is a chance for the parish to survive.
No city means, at best, people flee to other parishes if not other states.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is like the Nola/Northshore discussions on the same topic. If Nola implodes, the NS is fricked
At least the northshore has a 20+ mile bridge between it and the south shore. Crime has trouble crossing that bridge. With BR and st G there’s not such a dividing line. Crime will still infringe and if the city implodes then crime will get worse.
On principle I agree with St G. The people wanted to change something they acted on it voted on it and won. It’s the most American process ever.
With that said I have worries about the long term
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:14 pm to Adam Banks
what is that missing almost square puzzle piece?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:15 pm to 3Son
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what is that missing almost square puzzle piece?
Siegan Mall (Walmart, Same, Lowes, etc.)
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:20 pm to Indefatigable
It looks like it'll be a plus, if the school district is approved. On the other hand, it could end up like Zachary and DR Horton takes over and the folks from BR bring their bullshite there. It's definitely happened here. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened in Central yet.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:21 pm to Antonio Moss
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BR City has been siphoning around $50 million annually in tax revenue from the unincorporated areas to help fund BRPD and BRFD. That lost revenue is going to have to be made up somewhere - potentially by cutting nonessential programs like CATS.
Is that how it works? I honestly don't know. But it doesn't seem like you can take taxes specifically labelled as "10.600 BR CAPITAL AREA TRANSIT SYSTEM" and redirect those funds into the general fund.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:28 pm to TigerFan244
Bad in the short term. Can be hugely beneficial in the longterm, but only if done so competently. Knowing that this is Louisiana and basic competency is an impossibility, I believe it will be largely negligible impact long term, maybe even a slight net negative.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:29 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Is that how it works? I honestly don't know.
All sales tax from the unincorporated area was rolled into the general fund for EBR Parish.
Rules on that fund were that set percentages of that amount were used to fund BRPD and BRFD, which only serve BR and not any other portion of the parish, incorporated or not, before any additional allocations were made.
Short version - BR’s police and fire budgets are HEAVILY subsidized by St George. Lacking that money means BR has to replace it from somewhere, either through increased taxes in BR or cutting spending such as on CATS or other dog and pony shows that SWB et all use to buy votes.
That money doesn’t directly go to CATS but money is fungible and St George paying so much for two of BR’s biggest budget items sure frees up a lot of money for other crap.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:32 pm to Adam Banks
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At least the northshore has a 20+ mile bridge between it and the south shore. Crime has trouble crossing that bridge. With BR and st G there’s not such a dividing line. Crime will still infringe and if the city implodes then crime will get worse.
It's not only crime. The economy of the NS is based around Nola. The economy of STG is based around BR.
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On principle I agree with St G. The people wanted to change something they acted on it voted on it and won. It’s the most American process ever.
With that said I have worries about the long term
I agree.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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The one thing St. George is kidding itself about is not having to increase taxes though. You want a high-functioning, suburban school district, you are going to have to increase property taxes.
We currently pay property taxes for schools.
Is it enough to run a great system? Who knows?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's not only crime. The economy of the NS is based around Nola. The economy of STG is based around BR.
Absolutely. Both sets go hand in hand but I’m just saying that the affects of an ailing Baton Rouge on St George will be felt much quicker because of proximity.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:55 pm to TigerFan244
It will be good for the firm that gets to manage "privatized municipal services". Good for the first few go rounds of mayor & alderman or city council members as deals are made with the entities that will run things and provide services. Also good for the developers that buy up & shite up every undeveloped square foot of STG.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:57 pm to uncommon sense
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Also good for the developers that buy up & shite up every undeveloped square foot of STG.
Engquist et all have already been doing this the last 40+ years.
Only thing this does is sunset their bullshite by actually having a city there to regulate the area as well as prevent them from pretending the area is Baton Rouge.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:57 pm to TigerFan244
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City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
Good if it leads to a school district.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:59 pm to TigerFan244
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Mayor SWB looking like deer in headlights trying to figure out where funding is going to come from to run the city that used to be Baton Rouge.
Then she shouldn't have taken a dump on all of her white tax base every chance she got and only used their hard earned tax dollars in N.Baton Rouge while she let S Baton Rouge turn into a HOMELESS camp and crime ridden shite hole..
FAFO
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Bruh, like everything you EVER post is just fricking trolling. I don't understand how you can remain motivated unless you are clearly mentally deficient.
Every damn time. I wish I could bottle whatever it is that keeps you going because though extremely irritating, it's fairly amazing.
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