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re: What QB room would you prefer to have?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:14 pm to VADawg
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:14 pm to VADawg
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The correct answer in this scenario is almost always B
If that were the case then you’d see NFL teams trade their top 15 big contract QB’s for high draft picks and getting themselves rookie QB’s instead. Do we have even one example of this happening in recent times?
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:16 pm to Jon Ham
The Green Bay Packers last year
The Houston Texans with Deshaun Watson
The Falcons with Matt Ryan
Off the top of my head
The Houston Texans with Deshaun Watson
The Falcons with Matt Ryan
Off the top of my head
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:25 pm to Jon Ham
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If that were the case then you’d see NFL teams trade their top 15 big contract QB’s for high draft picks and getting themselves rookie QB’s instead
I think teams should do this more often. They are too eager to commit massive money to solid QBs who are not good enough to carry the rest of the roster when their weapons get priced out of town.
Dallas giving Dak the deal they did slammed their Super Bowl window shut.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:25 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The Green Bay Packers last year
Not exactly what we’re talking about. Love was entering his 4th season, not a rookie. Green Bay had a much better idea of what they had in Love than what any team would know about what they’re getting in a rookie QB.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:28 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The Falcons with Matt Ryan
Matt Ryan wasn’t a top 15 QB when he was traded.
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The Houston Texans with Deshaun Watson
Obviously something else was going on there.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:31 pm to Jon Ham
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Matt Ryan wasn’t a top 15 QB when he was traded.
That’s your opinion
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Obviously something else was going on there.
Obviously it looks like it’s worked out pretty well
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:41 pm to Jon Ham
Do we just ignore that A and B come with the best defensive prospect in the draft as well?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:47 pm to Jon Ham
What one has the pieces around them? If the pieces around them are garbage it probably doesn’t matter who the qb is.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:56 pm to Jon Ham
I would need at least a little more info. The main one is whether the top 10 pick rookie QB was a reach. I would rather have A or C if the top 10 pick was a reach.
Penix was a reach. This year every other first-round QB, even Williams, Daniels, and McCarthy, have a few questions that would have me preferring C.
Not all first-round QBs come through and some take a minute to get there before they do.
Penix was a reach. This year every other first-round QB, even Williams, Daniels, and McCarthy, have a few questions that would have me preferring C.
Not all first-round QBs come through and some take a minute to get there before they do.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:00 pm to Jon Ham
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C.
Starter: 35 year old top 15 QB
Backup: top 10 pick rookie QB
NFL Karens: “This isn’t the perfect use of resources!!!!”
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:06 pm to Jon Ham
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Starter: Top 10 pick rookie QB
Could be Joe Burrow, could be Zach Wilson. At least with A, you have a proven commodity. B you're just rolling the dice.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:36 pm to mdomingue
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would need at least a little more info.
Anyone that thinks this hypothetical can be answered without additional info lacks a brain
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:44 pm to TackySweater
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would need at least a little more info.
Anyone that thinks this hypothetical can be answered without additional info lacks a brain
Anyone who thinks any hypothetical can't be answered is an idiot.
Anyone who thinks a hypothetical on an internet sports board is looking for some definitive or even correct answer is probably incapable of logical thought.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:49 pm to Jon Ham
A or B depending on who the 35 yo and the top 10 rookie are.
C is meaningless without full context. For example is the 35 yo in the last year of his contract or is his contract buy out minimal? If it’s say a free agent you just signed to a 4/$180M deal with $100M guaranteed then it would be fricking stupid to do C.
C is meaningless without full context. For example is the 35 yo in the last year of his contract or is his contract buy out minimal? If it’s say a free agent you just signed to a 4/$180M deal with $100M guaranteed then it would be fricking stupid to do C.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:51 pm to Jon Ham
Depends on my cap situation. Most likely, I’d take A, but if I am short on money because I invested it in my lines, I’mma ride with B and hope I hit the lottery on a great QB on a cheap rookie deal while being able to protect him and keep games close with a solid pass rush.
Option 3 is ideal if the qb is near the end of his contract (2 years or less).
Option 3 is ideal if the qb is near the end of his contract (2 years or less).
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:55 pm to Jon Ham
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If that were the case then you’d see NFL teams trade their top 15 big contract QB’s for high draft picks and getting themselves rookie QB’s instead. Do we have even one example of this happening in recent times?
What you will definitely not see is a team commit to a win now approach and sign a 35 yr old top 15 QB for $180M and then two months later ditch that plan by drafting another QB 8th overall, thereby depriving your team of a player that will help them win now.
But your OP was a hypothetical, and there is no way a team would be stupid enough to do that in real life. Would they?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:03 pm to Jon Ham
B, 100 out of 100 times.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:14 pm to mdomingue
Ok lol
Aggressive
Aggressive
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:17 pm to Jon Ham
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If that were the case then you’d see NFL teams trade their top 15 big contract QB’s for high draft picks and getting themselves rookie QB’s instead. Do we have even one example of this happening in recent times?
In order to do this someone would have to agree to the trade, most teams wouldn’t in position to draft a top QB prospect would not be interested in trading for an aging expensive veteran. A close example would be the 2016 Chiefs. They were 12-4 and the 2 seed in the AFC and lost in the division round. They had signed Alex Smith to an extension in 2014. He had 2 years left when they drafted Mahomes and traded him to Washington after the 2017 for a 3rd round pick. I think it’s safe to say they had topped out with Smith and went after a rookie QB they thought could win at a higher level and fortunately for them turned out to be correct. But Smiths deal was at the end so it did cost them 15-20% to get rid of him.
If the Falcons were able to trade cousins next year it would destroy their cap for 2 more years, so not until Penix 4th year at best which is when they’d have to resign him. That’s the part you keep missing
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:17 pm to InkStainedWretch
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B, 100 out of 100 times.
So you would trade a 35 year old top 15 QB for one top 10 draft pick? Genius. You should start applying for NFL GM jobs.
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