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re: WSJ: Wall Street Has Spent Billions Buying Homes. A Crackdown Is Looming.

Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:15 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:15 am to
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That's gonna happen anyway if we no longer have an affordable market and everyone turns to the mindset of being OK to just be renters


Have you seen rent prices? Why does anyone think renting is cheap? Sure, buying isn’t cheap but renting isn’t cheaper.

It’s like saying new car prices are expensive so I’ll just lease. (Yes I know there’s some good deals on leases, blah blah)

Ultimately if you have a down payment owning is still going to be cheaper than renting. You aren’t paying a middle man to manage your home.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:17 am to
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Have you seen rent prices? Why does anyone think renting is cheap? Sure, buying isn’t cheap but renting isn’t cheaper.
renting doesn't make you have to come up with a 20% down payment...the problem with many wanna-be first time buyers, unless they are getting help from family, will have trouble coming up with the down payment, even if homes cost significantly less than now.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7359 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:01 am to
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Have you seen rent prices? Why does anyone think renting is cheap? Sure, buying isn’t cheap but renting isn’t cheaper.


This is highly dependent on where you live.

Buying assumes (rules of thumb):
Mortgage
Insurance
Property Taxes
Maintenance
Repairs
PMI*
HOA Fees*

Eventually you break even and buying becomes cheaper, but in some cases this could take 9-15 years, and this isn't 1986 anymore. I'd be hesitant to buy a nice home and fork $75k savings down in an area where I wasn't sure I'd be able to find stable employment for the next 3 decades.

Let's not forget the headache of home ownership, which people who rent don't really get until you have a house. If you like it, that's great. But if you aren't handy and don't have the willingness to learn, it can be a real pain in the arse.

* - Not always applicable
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4713 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:09 am to
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Why does anyone think renting is cheap?

Do you think homeownership is cheap? Like anything you buy, nothing is guaranteed. Lots of new construction homes come with warranties for the first year that cover most things that should NOT go wrong in the first year. Things break, whether it be from poor craftsmanship or bad luck. We got lucky that water leak in our house caused us to have to get a new kitchen/downstairs flooring (that we wanted to do anyway) and an insurance claim covered all of it. It was much easier than having to wait years to save $30k in updates that we would have less time to enjoy.

If you're renting, unless you broke something yourself, the landlord will foot the bill for all repairs. Updates to the home? You don't pay. Need a new A/C unit? Paid by the landlord. Plumbing issue? Landlord.

Please do not act like buying a home is a instant equity builder. As a homeowner, you are adding up costs throughout your time of owning a home. Lawncare/home maintenance add up over time, something that renters do not have to pay for.

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It’s like saying new car prices are expensive so I’ll just lease

People lease cars because they like having a new car every few years. New car generally means not having to worry about problems that occur later on in life, cheaper montly pricing, not having to worry about selling, and paying less throughout those short term contracts so that you can save up for the next lease. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of leasing a car is pretty ridiculous and a waste of money. I would rather buy something that lasts 10+ years and can be paid off in half that time. I also realize that it's not cheap. The rules on leasing cars are also a pain. Limited mileage + making sure it is returned in the same condition you bought it as.

It's different strokes for different folks, but right now, renting is way better if you're considering the fact that interest rates are astronomically high and who knows when they'll be brought back down to even 3%. I've seen posters talk about how they've upgraded homes but are having to pay almost double their previous notes because of interest rates.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30225 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:42 am to
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Ultimately if you have a down payment owning is still going to be cheaper than renting


Ehhh, not necessarily. Rent is pretty freaking expensive, but...

Mortgage, property tax, insurance, maintenance.....owning 10-15 years ago was certainly cheaper. Now? Not so much.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:46 am
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