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re: Would someone please explain the crimes Trump committed?

Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:27 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:27 am to
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He is, and it is, barring jury nullification.


Link it you liar. The exact opposite of what you claim is the truth. As per usual.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:28 am to
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:30 am to
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If he would have paid out of his campaign ny would be prosecuting him for improper campaign financing too.


Why not just pay it out of your own personal account, have them sign an NDA, and be done with it?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:33 am to
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He’s on tape telling cohen “do it all on the up and up”.


So if Trump didn't do anything with Stormy Daniels why the payoff? Why the NDA? None of this makes any sense. Same with the McDougal lady.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23251 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:35 am to
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Why not just pay it out of your own personal account, have them sign an NDA, and be done with it?


Why not do it this other perfectly legal way?

Are people supposed to live their lives thinking of every way democrats can trash the legal system?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48521 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:35 am to
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So if Trump didn't do anything with Stormy Daniels why the payoff? Why the NDA? None of this makes any sense. Same with the McDougal lady.


Completely irrelevant to the criminal case. You dumb stupid idiot.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:36 am to
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So if Trump didn't do anything with Stormy Daniels why the payoff? Why the NDA? None of this makes any sense. Same with the McDougal lady.



He's not on trial for fricking a porn star and paying her to shut up about it. You know that, right?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23251 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:36 am to
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So if Trump didn't do anything with Stormy Daniels why the payoff? Why the NDA? None of this makes any sense. Same with the McDougal lady.


People have never paid off extortionists to avoid bad publicity?

I think he probably banged the hot one but not the porn star fyi.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7100 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:36 am to
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Completely irrelevant to the criminal case. You dumb stupid idiot.




This is so delusional.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:37 am to
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This is so delusional.


Triple-down.....
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:39 am to
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He is in court in NY defending himself against allegedly falsifying financial records in order to commit a crime. So where is the crime?


The crime is related to the 2016 election and is tied to Federal election law that the FEC declined to charge him with.

The record entry error was done AFTER he won, so it had no effect.


It's all very stupid.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7100 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:39 am to
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People have never paid off extortionists to avoid bad publicity?


Usually when people try to extort money for things that didn't happen people get out in front by contacting law enforcement and don't pay. This is all just another one of Trump's many lies that he could have squashed way back in 2015 or 2016 by simply saying "Yes, I had sex with both of them" and we wouldn't even be talking about it today. I will never understand why Trump digs in on such obvious lies it makes it so much more difficult than it should be.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48521 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:39 am to
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This is so delusional.


You are dumber than Damone. There is no relevance. The elements of the crime are the elements of the alleged crime. Not a thing you posted has a thing to do with the elements. It is amazing how consistently you prove to be a completely ignorant moron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423160 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:40 am to
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That’s why SFP is a believer

wut?

I have only spoken in terms of what is being alleged
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48521 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:40 am to
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Usually when people try to extort money for things that didn't happen people get out in front by contacting law enforcement and don't pay.


Are you not aware of the judgment Trump got against Stormy? You fricking ignorant twat.
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
571 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:41 am to
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Are people supposed to live their lives thinking of every way democrats can trash the legal system?


The coverup is always worse than the crime (which is kind of interesting, because a direct payment and an NDA would not constitute a crime).

This is less about people living their lives in a way to avoid anyone trashing the legal system and more about moving in a way that doesn't expose you to potential criminal culpability.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14712 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:41 am to


Ronricks right now.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48521 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:42 am to
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The coverup is always worse than the crime (which is kind of interesting, because a direct payment and an NDA would not a crime).


Reconcile trump telling cohen to do everything on the up and up and the FEC and DOJ declining to prosecute with the crimes alleges by the NY attorney.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7100 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:42 am to
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It is amazing how consistently you prove to be a completely ignorant moron.


Tell us more about how Wisconsin ruling voided the 2020 election and removed Biden and inserted Trump as President.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:42 am to
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What do they mean by this? Do you know which NY statute Bragg is prosecuting?

IIRC, that's the hook to get around the SOL issue.

Even if the jury finds that this behavior violates the wacky business records law, they have to rely on a second statute with a longer SOL, which requires the campaign association.

The meat is the business records part.
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