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re: Joe Rogan Podcast with Bart Sibrel - who here believes the Moon Landing was a hoax?

Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
311 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
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But that does not mean there were no advantages for a country to go back any time in the last 50 years. So I just don't see any logical answer as to why another country didn't go anytime in the last 10 or 20 years for the reasons above and in my previous post.


One more time - what country had the money, the political will, and the technical resources to do so? Name them. There aren't any, until modern China, and they are another 10 years out. The fact that SpaceX can even attempt it is a testament to the advance of every technology aside from basic propulsion, and NO other non-allied country, and quite a few of the allied ones, can legally access the technology that SpaceX can.

You get spoiled by being able to go buy whatever you want here computing-wise, but ITAR is a thing, and fabulously expensive to violate, not to mention time and Club Fed for violators. Go out and buy yourself a state of the art workstation, load it with the best CAE packages that are in everyday use here, and try exporting it.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:37 pm to
I listened to most of it. I'm not making a conclusion on the ultimate but I found most of Sibrel's arguments lacking.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:51 pm to
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The moon landing story is a fake, only because it was actually three sassy black ladies who were smart enough to get us there..


Actually -

This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7672 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:53 pm to
I have no idea if it was faked or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it was fake.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41194 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:29 pm to
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What do you think? I, for one, am very skeptical, especially considering some of the other things our government tells us that wasn’t true.



Not sure why anyone would believe anything our gov't had to say on any subject. In fact, I'd say you'd be in much better shape if you dismissed anything they had to say as false and do the opposite.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111113 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:36 pm to
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One more time
Just saying "one more time" does not mean you sufficiently answered it the first time, you most certainly did not. You think you did, that's cool. But you did not actually do what you think you did.

In fact, the US is going back for reasons that are exactly what I said, that also run counter to what you said as reasons no one needed to go back
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There aren't any, until modern China, and they are another 10 years out.
So we did it in 1969, and China won't have the technical resources and technological capabilities to do it until 2034? Or another way to put it, you're stating the US had better tech in 1969 than China does in 2024?

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The fact that SpaceX can even attempt it is a testament to the advance of every technology aside from basic propulsion
So before you said there were basically no technological advancements that would make this easier today, and now you have a post stating the opposite.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:42 pm to
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Not sure why anyone would believe anything our gov't had to say on any subject. In fact, I'd say you'd be in much better shape if you dismissed anything they had to say as false and do the opposite



Its going to suck if fast spreading virus that has fatality rate of say 5-15% really does hit in this generation and we need to act fast to contain it. No one will believe the warnings.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51373 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Would all of this prove prove that man was on the moon or just that spacecrafts were on the moon? I don't think any, or many dispute that we have gone to the moon, just if man has gone to the moon.


I think yall could literally be on the moon yourselves and still question if man has gone to the moon. Nuts.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111113 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:55 pm to
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I think yall could literally be on the moon yourselves and still question if man has gone to the moon. Nuts
You quoted me but didn't answer the question... Feel free to try.

Pictures of the landing site alone, does that prove that humans landed on the moon, yes or no?
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
273 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:06 pm to
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Its going to suck if fast spreading virus that has fatality rate of say 5-15% really does hit in this generation and we need to act fast to contain it. No one will believe the warnings.


Don’t you think the lesson should be that we probably can’t contain it? Maybe we should focus on not creating lab mutated viruses to begin with.
Posted by Keyser Sooieze
Member since Apr 2024
66 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:08 pm to
Watching now. So many questions but I paused at the 2:02:27 mark.

Sibrel is talking about how AI answered the question are these moon landing photos real and it said 'no'. He then says to an NBC News director when are you going to run this story. Director says he's not and won't go down as the man who kicked of another civil war.

Would we war if it was proven fake? Put another way, would that prove enough that we can't accept our government's BS any longer?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:16 pm to
“Who here believes the moon landings was a hoax?”

Idiots. That’s who. Idiots
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111113 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Would we war if it was proven fake? Put another way, would that prove enough that we can't accept our government's BS any longer?
No chance

We had covid lock downs, and half the population thinks an election was stolen and the masses did absolutely nothing. This wouldn't move the needle at all.

Sibrel wasn't remotely discussing in good faith in the Rogan interview. Never heard of him before, but he just came off as a dude who'd do anything to get you to believe him, it was not a good showing.

If they ever get that debate Rogan mentioned, I'd bet he will get destroyed. He couldn't even come up with good retorts to Rogan just giving logical push backs.
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Sibrel is talking about how AI answered the question are these moon landing photos real and it said 'no'
I posted somewhere in here, Sibrel exaggerated that greatly. Someone at a conference in Russia did say that Google AI did that but there's zero proof of it actually being so.

This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Keyser Sooieze
Member since Apr 2024
66 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:41 pm to

Hmm. 30 minutes more and Sibrel has said you've got to read my book/stories about 10 times. Now on a story about the feds chasing him in ATL, then abducting him etc. He's losing direction.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Don’t you think the lesson should be that we probably can’t contain it? Maybe we should focus on not creating lab mutated viruses to begin with


It could come from nature...Either way we would need to enact protocols to contain it as much as possible and protect rhe most vulnerable. Unfortunately I think bodies would have to start hitting the floor before we react
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3754 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:00 pm to
I bet democrats are more likely to believe in the moon landing
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8292 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:18 pm to
I believe the moon landing was a hoax.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7770 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:23 pm to
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the notion the moon landings were fakes is absurd. You can use a telescope and see the evidence we did in fact land on the moon with your own eyes…


Did you see a man on the moon? We can send rockets and robots but we can't send men. If it was possible another country would have done it already. No other country but the US has supposedly sent men to the moon. It's BS. It never happened.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16989 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:27 pm to
Count me in as hoax 100%
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:27 pm to
Incredible you animals are allowed to breathe and vote
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