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re: Is it possible for us to tell BOTH the Jews and the Muslims in the Middle East to GFY?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:46 pm to ryanlsu
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:46 pm to ryanlsu
Poli board has become isolationist.
Your are dead on. Majority on this board would just let Israel be destroyed by these Neanderthals from the 16th century. Not only do they hate Jews they hate Christians more. There is absolutely no common ground between Islam and Christianity, they are like oil and water. Yet they claim we serve the same God. Would Jesus agree with this nonsense.
Salvation is of the Jews whether we like it or not. Christians are grafted in Paul says in Gods word.
A lot of people were frightened the night Iran attacked Israel. But this is not the end of this conflict. Remember the Muslim despots that stated there will be many more October the 7th for Israel.
If Israel feels they are backed in a corner they will ignite the Middle East. Christians need to wake up and wake up quick. Even our Savior said he brings a sword not peace
Your are dead on. Majority on this board would just let Israel be destroyed by these Neanderthals from the 16th century. Not only do they hate Jews they hate Christians more. There is absolutely no common ground between Islam and Christianity, they are like oil and water. Yet they claim we serve the same God. Would Jesus agree with this nonsense.
Salvation is of the Jews whether we like it or not. Christians are grafted in Paul says in Gods word.
A lot of people were frightened the night Iran attacked Israel. But this is not the end of this conflict. Remember the Muslim despots that stated there will be many more October the 7th for Israel.
If Israel feels they are backed in a corner they will ignite the Middle East. Christians need to wake up and wake up quick. Even our Savior said he brings a sword not peace
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:30 pm to JimNat
All the "smart" fricks on here think it's crucial to keep doing the same stupid shite. Does it make you feel smarter to buy into everything you've been fed over the years by big business and the worthless fricks they put in office? You are the problem.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:35 pm to JimNat
It really does blow my mind that we have people who want Israel to just get over it. I had a friend ask me why Israel hasn't just gotten over it yet so I did a little quick math.
7.2 million Jews in Israel --1450 killed or kidnapped on Oct. 7th -- .00020139
333 million Americans X .00020139 = 67,062
If Oct. 7th happened to the USA today it would be like terrorists killing and kidnapping 67,000 people.
For reference the US lost about 60,000 people from 1961-1975 in Vietnam.
So what happened to them was worse than Vietnam in one day.
7.2 million Jews in Israel --1450 killed or kidnapped on Oct. 7th -- .00020139
333 million Americans X .00020139 = 67,062
If Oct. 7th happened to the USA today it would be like terrorists killing and kidnapping 67,000 people.
For reference the US lost about 60,000 people from 1961-1975 in Vietnam.
So what happened to them was worse than Vietnam in one day.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:38 pm to ryanlsu
I'm not telling israel to get over it. They can do what they want.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:39 pm to Faurot fodder
Anyone who picks a side in the sand people wars over magic dirt is sped. They all need to go back to sand land.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:44 pm to Faurot fodder
quote:
All the "smart" fricks on here think it's crucial to keep doing the same stupid shite
It literally must hurt for someone as stupid as you to hold two thoughts in your head. For most people it is possible and even preferred to not be a myopic smooth brained moron.
For instance, it is possible to dislike the Military Industrial Complex and believe that they love war and the profits that come from it. That these people do not want peace in the world.
But at the same time realize there are evil fricks in this world and a whole lot of them are religious zealots in the Middle East.
To also realize that the economy of the world is intertwined and things that happen elsewhere have a huge impact on things at home. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't make things go away, it just leaves your butt in the air for somebody to come frick you in the arse.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:55 pm to Faurot fodder
Israel wants a place for the Jews and are willing to fight for it. They need to start considering innocent lives at a much higher priority than they do. Their Muslim citizens are as equal as anyone else including women. The rest of the Middle East is mostly for male Muslims anyone else "rights" are negligible.
In the Middle East. There is two things that stand out above all. Geography and Geology. Which in turn leads to a lot of reality-important strategic considerations. That affects your daily lives. If ya don't know what I'm talking about ya need to educate yourself. The Middle East is very complicated, with things that are outside of it, but connected.
People are sick of being the "Worlds Police", but with the power vacuum that would ensue after we step down, most would realize what a mistake it would be to let China and a gang of Thug countries rule the open seas.
There seem to be people who are making up the isolationist Utopian society in their collective heads. It's no better than communism.
The world is not so simple.
In the Middle East. There is two things that stand out above all. Geography and Geology. Which in turn leads to a lot of reality-important strategic considerations. That affects your daily lives. If ya don't know what I'm talking about ya need to educate yourself. The Middle East is very complicated, with things that are outside of it, but connected.
People are sick of being the "Worlds Police", but with the power vacuum that would ensue after we step down, most would realize what a mistake it would be to let China and a gang of Thug countries rule the open seas.
There seem to be people who are making up the isolationist Utopian society in their collective heads. It's no better than communism.
The world is not so simple.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:57 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
quote:All of the money we send them is deposited in an interest bearing account.
Around 90% of the aid we send Israel is spent here,
quote:Like Teva Pharmaceuticals who makes the majority of the trans drugs used on Americans, including kids. Thanks.
Israel high tech is driving many of the innovations
quote:Your intel on us is much better, as you've used it to steal our nuclear tech.
Our intel from the Middle East
quote:Israel is the world's 4th largest arms dealer and has supplied many of the arms currently tearing Africa apart.
We ship OUR weapons systems to Israel who enhance them
quote:frick you.
You assholes
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:05 pm to Faurot fodder
Does it make you feel smarter to buy into what you have been fed by big business.
I’m looking at this from a spiritual point not what I have been fed. I have been fed by a biblical view not man’s view.
I’m looking at this from a spiritual point not what I have been fed. I have been fed by a biblical view not man’s view.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:06 pm to ryanlsu
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Good luck getting them to ramp up production if there is a shortage.
It’s 2024, the us is currently producing more oil than any nation in the history of the world at 13.2 mmbbls/d.
So you believe the only thing holding out global economic collapse is the Israelis and by proxy the US keeping in check the Iranians? Lmfao
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:18 pm to hubertcumberdale
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It’s 2024, the us is currently producing more oil than any nation in the history of the world at 13.2 mmbbls/d
That's nice. The world uses 97.3 million barrels per day.
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So you believe the only thing holding out global economic collapse is the Israelis and by proxy the US keeping in check the Iranians? Lmfao
The OP said we should just completely pull out of the Middle East. If we did that numerous things could happen, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS BAD FOR THE USA. Iran could take over the region, China could take over the region, Iran could attack Israel to the point where Israel nukes Tehran. But the chances of them all holding hands and becoming best friends and the region staying peaceful and oil production staying stable is right up there with people mistaking you for having intelligence.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:24 pm to ryanlsu
So the iranans would knock out how many bbls/d of global production if the US wasn’t in Israel? Even though that’s the main income of all these middle eastern countries, they would just plug every well and keep the oil as reserves while also trying to fight a war with the rest of the world. What’s the cost benefit analysis of the US pulling out of the Middle East and the subsequent global economic collapse that will ensue? Thanks Mr big brains
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:26 pm to Faurot fodder
frick the middle east - In fact, frick every other country on this planet besides the USA
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I know right. Good thing they’ve never attacked us.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:35 pm to Frostynips1
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Good thing they’ve never attacked us.
Israel?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:57 pm to ryanlsu
I don't think you smart fricks have thought about the domestic aspect of this entire fricking thing.
How about we get the foreign policy dildos out of our smart asses and wake the frick up to what's going on outside your windows. Attention needs to be paid HERE, you dum sumbitch
How about we get the foreign policy dildos out of our smart asses and wake the frick up to what's going on outside your windows. Attention needs to be paid HERE, you dum sumbitch
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:37 pm to hubertcumberdale
Doesn’t take a big brain or even a small brain. Just a brain will suffice but I will try to explain it to you anyway.
A lot of the Muslims in the Middle East hate America. But Iran hates us most of all. Partly because of sanctions and stopping their nuclear program but also because we are keeping them from taking over the Middle East. Muslims in Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait also hate us and dont want us to have bases in the holy lands. But the people in charge of these countries want to keep their money, mansions, and cars so over the protest of their people they allow us to have bases there to ensure stability.
This stability allows them to continue producing and selling oil. These countries leaders are mostly concerned about money.
Iran is also in the region. Unlike the other countries who have monarchies with kings who happen to be Muslim. Iran is more of a theocracy and its leaders care way more about Islamic goals. These are the kind of countries that you have to worry about doing things that are not in their own best interest. For instance Iran continued to defy the world on its nuclear program and continued to fund terrorism even though it has cost them hundreds of billions of dollars. It also has almost double the population of Saudi, UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait combined.
If the USA unilaterally pulled out of the Middle East it would signal to the world that we are done with the region. We could wag our finger at Iran and say dont make us come back over here but it would still create a huge power vacuum.
Without our protection Iran would take over these other countries. They could take them over and continue to produce and sell oil. But any time the world pissed them off (some Danish cartoonist prints a comic strip with Mohammed fricking a goat) they will hold the world hostage as they would then control the largest percentage of oil production in the world.
Why do people think they will do this? Because they have said the Middle East should be united under one Muslim ruler.
If we decided to come liberate the other countries Iran would sabotage the oil wells and refineries as they leave.
Why do we think they would do that? Because that is exactly what Iraq did when we kicked them out of Kuwait.
To sum up a long post, when Iran tells you and shows you want they want to do - believe them. They fund and support terrorist groups in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Bahrain, Iraq and more. They attack Israelis, Americans, Saudis, Yemenese and more. They think they are doing what allah wants them to do. That makes them more dangerous than a country that you can bribe.
A lot of the Muslims in the Middle East hate America. But Iran hates us most of all. Partly because of sanctions and stopping their nuclear program but also because we are keeping them from taking over the Middle East. Muslims in Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait also hate us and dont want us to have bases in the holy lands. But the people in charge of these countries want to keep their money, mansions, and cars so over the protest of their people they allow us to have bases there to ensure stability.
This stability allows them to continue producing and selling oil. These countries leaders are mostly concerned about money.
Iran is also in the region. Unlike the other countries who have monarchies with kings who happen to be Muslim. Iran is more of a theocracy and its leaders care way more about Islamic goals. These are the kind of countries that you have to worry about doing things that are not in their own best interest. For instance Iran continued to defy the world on its nuclear program and continued to fund terrorism even though it has cost them hundreds of billions of dollars. It also has almost double the population of Saudi, UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait combined.
If the USA unilaterally pulled out of the Middle East it would signal to the world that we are done with the region. We could wag our finger at Iran and say dont make us come back over here but it would still create a huge power vacuum.
Without our protection Iran would take over these other countries. They could take them over and continue to produce and sell oil. But any time the world pissed them off (some Danish cartoonist prints a comic strip with Mohammed fricking a goat) they will hold the world hostage as they would then control the largest percentage of oil production in the world.
Why do people think they will do this? Because they have said the Middle East should be united under one Muslim ruler.
If we decided to come liberate the other countries Iran would sabotage the oil wells and refineries as they leave.
Why do we think they would do that? Because that is exactly what Iraq did when we kicked them out of Kuwait.
To sum up a long post, when Iran tells you and shows you want they want to do - believe them. They fund and support terrorist groups in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Bahrain, Iraq and more. They attack Israelis, Americans, Saudis, Yemenese and more. They think they are doing what allah wants them to do. That makes them more dangerous than a country that you can bribe.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:02 pm to Faurot fodder
quote:
I don't think you smart fricks have thought about the domestic aspect of this entire fricking thing.
How about we get the foreign policy dildos out of our smart asses and wake the frick up to what's going on outside your windows. Attention needs to be paid HERE, you dum sumbitch
At this point I’m starting to think you have to be a troll. No one could be this stupid and still work a computer.
But for argument’s sake - I am looking at the domestic aspect you brain dead embarrassment to the entire educational system of the United States.
Let’s look at the oil embargo of 1973. The price of oil rose almost 300%. How’s $12 a gallon gas for your fricking domestic aspect. Politicians called for national gasoline rationing. States asked citizens to not put up Christmas lights. Nixon asked gas stations not to sell gas on Saturday nights or Sundays. In the last week of February 1974, 20% of American gas stations had no fuel. Speed limits were capped at 55 mph.
It will not be quite that bad here since the US has ramped up domestic oil production. But if you think Covid interrupted supply chains. Wait till we can’t get microchips from Taiwan or basically anything from anywhere. Times have changed, almost nothing is made completely in America anymore. Even some of the things that say made in America are actually assembled in America from parts made in other countries.
It would cost us over 10 times what we spend in the Middle East per year if there was an oil embargo. Isolationism is the foreign policy of the small minded.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:25 pm to ryanlsu
Doesn’t take a big brain or small brain.
You are spot on here sir. I have been warning people about Iran for years. If they get a nuke and they will soon, they will have no problem nuking Israel, problem there is we know Israel has nukes. There will not be another holocaust for Israel they will level Tehran
You are spot on here sir. I have been warning people about Iran for years. If they get a nuke and they will soon, they will have no problem nuking Israel, problem there is we know Israel has nukes. There will not be another holocaust for Israel they will level Tehran
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:45 pm to ryanlsu
I don't disagree with much of what you said. But.. Iran has a substantial population that is not Muslim and/or not fundamentalist. With any luck, if the califate collapsed they would be a modern western looking country. It's a sad situation. Partly our fault.
They would have to do a lot more than Iraq to destroy the oil fields. The equipment yeah. The majority of the supply, good luck.
Maga has been pacified to believe tyrannist, terrorist countries are not a threat. They have become the very thing they detest, Soi Boy little fruit cakes ready to bow down to the Dictators and say we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
The opposite of a "Can Do" mentality. What the freak you red blooded Americans have turned into. It's a dame shame. I hope you people don't teach your military aged children this crap. Oh wait.
They would have to do a lot more than Iraq to destroy the oil fields. The equipment yeah. The majority of the supply, good luck.
Maga has been pacified to believe tyrannist, terrorist countries are not a threat. They have become the very thing they detest, Soi Boy little fruit cakes ready to bow down to the Dictators and say we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
The opposite of a "Can Do" mentality. What the freak you red blooded Americans have turned into. It's a dame shame. I hope you people don't teach your military aged children this crap. Oh wait.
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