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re: Why doesn’t everyone sign a pre-nup?

Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:02 pm to
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A pre-nup is not to protect what you enter the marriage with
That is EXACTLY what a pre nup is for
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10549 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:03 pm to
As other have said. My wife and I had just graduated college and were on that ramen noodle budget.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15702 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:08 pm to
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There’s no way in hell I’m not signing one if I ever get married (I’m 37 and never married).


Well guess what? No need to worry because you probably ain't ever getting married

That $100,000 in your 401k is safe
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1387 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:20 pm to
Well, when you get married, you become "one," not get married and stay two. If that's the case, why get married?

You have legitimate concerns about getting married and the high divorce rates, so I understand you think it's imperative to get a pre-nup to protect yourself. However, if you're worried about getting screwed by the person you're marrying, you probably shouldn't be marrying her or him or him/her.



Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27457 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
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However, if you're worried about getting screwed by the person you're marrying, you probably shouldn't be marrying her or him or him/her.
Cause the person you marry doesn't always continue to be the person you married. shite happens, people change.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12467 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:08 pm to
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legal downside to it?
That depends on whether you are the spouse who makes the most money or can accumulate the most assets.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58346 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:13 pm to
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If you're thinking divorce going in, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.


This is such a crock of shite I can't stand it when people say it. There's not a damn thing wrong with everyone protecting their shite going into a marriage. Hell it may even reduce resentment, somebody may resent their spouse if they know they'll get half their shite if they divorce

Do yall realize how many people can seem totally normal for YEARS then go absolutely bat shite insane? Especially women??
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7850 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:36 pm to
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One of these days I hope to visit Picayune, MS before I die.


Born there.

It’s a must see if I do say so. Finest meth in the land. I say that as a current LP resident.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:58 pm to
A prenup automatically invalidates the marriage in the Catholic Church.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12106 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:09 pm to
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I’m not looking for a cynical “sign a prenup, because all women are whores” response


Yes you are
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63516 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:19 pm to
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There’s no way in hell I’m not signing one if I ever get married


The problem isn't you signing one, it's getting her to sign one. Her primary asset is her sexual value, which depreciates over time. She isn't giving up her peak years without a financial stake in exchange. Most women with options will just move on to the next guy.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10323 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:38 pm to
Life is more than money.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58346 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:52 pm to
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Life is more than money


Of course it is


Therefore I assume you routinely enter legal contracts that can allow someone to seize half of your assets at any point in the future?
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
830 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
I'm close to your age and never married myself. However, I do think I'm with the one I will marry. If I had enough doubt that I felt the need to sign a pre-nup I absolutely wouldn't do it. However, you likely have more assest than I do from the way you speak. For contect her jobs is basically as good or some would consider better than mine. I may make more each week but I work more hours. I had 30+ years to make this choice. I'm confident I picked one I can live with forever
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39610 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:29 pm to
My wife and I never signed one because when we got married it was a making of one out of two. And if ever that was severed the last thing either would be worried about was worldly possessions.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12632 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:29 pm to
Because good ones are expensive.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4206 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:44 pm to
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But the reality is making transactional/contingent moves for a life change that's not *supposed* to be transactional or contingent


I understand that you emphasized "supposed" in your sentence above, but marriage in America is almost entirely transactional and contingent.

Specifically, it is contingent upon you getting what you want out of it. If you aren't, you are considered justified in breaking the commitment.

Everyone knows this and everyone but a tiny minority in the country approaches marriage this way. Those who even bother to get married in the first place, that is.

Might as well be honest about it. Especially since everything that people say about the justice system absolutely screwing men in divorce is absolutely true.

Now, if you're part of that tiny minority—and some on this thread seem to be—then good for you, and your chances for a meaningful marriage in which you become less selfish and more oriented toward duty and honor and commitment are great.

But not many people are modeling that sort of marriage any more. I understand why young people are confused and cynical. All they see are transactional relationships.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4206 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:49 pm to
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Hell it may even reduce resentment, somebody may resent their spouse if they know they'll get half their shite if they divorce


Or, someone may not think twice about pulling the trigger on divorce if they know it will be financially painless for them.

quote:

Do yall realize how many people can seem totally normal for YEARS then go absolutely bat shite insane?


Imma say a very, very small percentage. The vast majority were insane to begin with, their partners just didn't have the ability to discern it.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66814 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:05 pm to
if you live in a community property state you absolutely should at least get one to opt out of the community property regime.

Protection from each other’s creditors is a good thing.

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