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re: How many people on this forum still believe it was ever about Trump?

Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46505 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:06 pm to
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I don't think that Trump came anywhere close to even caring about the above scenario, or much less understanding it, when he first ran. He loved Capitalism and this Nation's Constitutional Republic which allowed and protected it. I think he has been 'educated' since, and now realizes that he's in what is a 'Religious' war, or soon will be, and he's in for keeps. And the 'religion' that will soon challenge all others is Secular Transnational Progressivism, that will be aided by extraordinary AI and other high tech powers. I don't think any honest person can refute the logic above, albeit the worldly logic that is the basis for TP is an idealist version, and as such, the 'herding cats' via 'cancel culture' has little hope of success. When the TPs realize this, that's when they really step up the herding cats game to meet any and all resistance.




RCD gets it.

Trump is a disposable tool, the blunt end of the America First spear. Trump is the imperfect candidate but he serves a purpose to expose the corrupt system that has been built over 75 years. It's in the best interest of America First to allow Trump to take the full retaliation of those who seek to fundamentally transform America into a cultural Marxist shite hole nation. Our last best hope is someone after Trump steps forward and takes the spear of righteousness and hones it to a razor sharp point of retribution against those seeking to destroy the constitutional republic .
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46505 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:08 pm to
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Trump worked behind the scenes and publicly to help get Ukraine billions of tax payer dollars. Trump reauthorized FISA and said it was fine to do so again last week. Now Mike Johnson is enemy #1 for following Trump.



Frick Trump!

Trump is serving a purpose and his time is short lived. The fight will go on for decades dummy.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
3552 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:09 pm to
It's always been a bit odd to me just how much they all despise him. Is it just because he calls them out verbally, so their petty little egos just can't take it? Was it the general peace through strength foreign policy bit that didn't really let the MIC play with their toys? Are they just that scared of the idea of what MAGA could actually become or is the simple act of publicly questioning and degrading the powers that be really that severe of an infraction in this day and age.

During his actual time in power, they managed to get him to surround himself with deep state stooges all throughout his first term. He actually helped move a lot of their typical business as usual bs forward. He bought into the vax bs pretty solidly. He did plenty that flew in their face, but in the end their overall power wasn't greatly effected.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46505 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:10 pm to
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I thought it was about Trump, and maybe for the first term it was, but it's obviously way bigger now. I can't imagine the bad guys slink back to the darkness if they succeed.


Trump was never my dude....but I see how Trump triggers the shite out of the DC Establishment and that's good enough for now because he's forced the enemies from within to self identify.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:24 pm to
Before Trump ever ran for president he was a tremendously terrible person. The guy has always been a scum bag. He is a rich spoiled hateful person. He was known not to pay people if he could get away with it. Homey is a creep. Sorry Republicans made him their guy, because he surely would have tried to run as a Democrat if he thought that would give him a better chance at the power and the attention he craves. He has no morels.

Almost every person who has worked for him has turned on him even if they had no pressure to. But he always picks the best people. I mean next time right? Next time there is sure to be the very best lining up to work for him again, right? Seeing how well it's worked out for the last bunch. The guy is not as rich as he says, and he is now financially compromised. He wouldn't pass a security check for a secretary for the USGA. If you think people are CRAZY for hating the guy you are lying to yourself.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6689 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:35 pm to
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Sorry Republicans made him their guy, because he surely would have tried to run as a Democrat if he thought that would give him a better chance at the power and the attention he craves. 


So Trump, wanting power and attention, decided to run as a republican, despite the fact that he would have been praised by the media, who gushed over him for decades, if he ran as a democrat? If I ever use such poor logic, go ahead and put me out of my misery.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:39 pm to
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So Trump, wanting power and attention, decided to run as a republican, despite the fact that he would have been praised by the media, who gushed over him for decades, if he ran as a democrat? If I ever use such poor logic, go ahead and put me out of my misery.


I'll double down. Without a doubt in my soul, I think Trump Would Run R, D, Green, Yellow. whatever was more likely for him to make it to the Whitehouse. Edit: you know what I would call that, a Rino. I saw it from way before he ever talked about running for office. He is a fake phony person. He always has been. The sheep lap it up.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:53 pm
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7095 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:40 pm to
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You have to make a decision on what side you're fighting for.


I stand for the side of right.... Just do what's right and you will be fine. And God gave man the ability to know right from wrong...
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53912 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:47 pm to
I’m afraid this will all
End very badly
Posted by OzonaOkapi
Patrolling the Edwards Plateau
Member since Apr 2024
400 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:13 am to
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Trump is … the blunt end of the America First spear.
What is the utility of a blunt spear?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6689 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:14 am to
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And you guys are still clinging to the Trump is wrecking the uniparty nonsense?

Is Trump not exposing himself as a Bureaucratic State Skunk? How many of your enemies does he need to hire, praise and elevate before you drop the idea that you and Trump are battling to preserve the country?


You people still can't answer one simple question. If Trump was so good for the uniparty, why are they working so hard to prevent him from being president again? Until you can provide a logical answer to this question, your arguments are irrelevant.

No other politician has received even 10% of the hatred Trump has, so he must be doing something right. The media and law enforcement don't care about Menendez raping kids or Swalwell banging Chinese spies, yet they are all over Trump for paying back loans on time. That should be a giant clue for anyone that passed 8th grade.

The simple truth is that Trump believes in America, and that means American institutions, for better or worse. He is not the "tear it all down" politician many of us want, but there is no other politician willing to do it either. If you think there is, you are fooling yourself. Trump is not perfect, but he's one of the few politicians that actually loves this country and is the best America First candidate we have.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:10 am to
The uniparty is a made-up thing. There are many fractions working behind the scenes. I think many who spout this nonsense know this, yet for some reason or another, they keep it up. Edit: The factions; fraction all the time, ever changing, unlike the brains of conspiracist theorists. We all know there are conspiracies, rarely do we know the exact nature of them.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 2:35 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20502 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:36 am to
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So Trump, wanting power and attention, decided to run as a republican, despite the fact that he would have been praised by the media, who gushed over him for decades, if he ran as a democrat? If I ever use such poor logic, go ahead and put me out of my misery.



I'll double down. Without a doubt in my soul, I think Trump Would Run R, D, Green, Yellow. whatever was more likely for him to make it to the Whitehouse
I think there's some truth to this.

I think he's been watching (from a very privileged position) for a long time, and realized things were slipping away from the America that allowed him to prosper, and incidentally allowed most of the nation to prosper. He was a behind-the-scenes guy for decades, and I saw the interview from 9/11 where he discussed what needed to be done, and the severe cost of being the man doing it. I think for a long time, he tried, along with others, to control things from behind the curtain; and eventually he decided he could do it better than the guys he bought. And as he hit a certain age, he finally committed to visibly taking the reins, which scared opposing shadow players.

And yeah, I don't think party has much to do with it, and the GOP conveniently was the party he could step into and take over. He wasn't going to take control of a Democrat party under the control of the Clintons and Obama and their people, but the GOP had a vacuum. But had the situation been reversed and the Dems were unsettled, while the GOP was strong and structured, he certainly would have stepped there instead. The key isn't what side you come from, it's getting into the White House, as stated. Either way, his goal was going to be the same thing. And either way, he was going to be ostracized by the media, because he's broken the rule of not stepping out of the shadows. The other shadow players (other billionaires etc) would always circle the wagons vs him, because he went rogue in their opinion.
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1078 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:07 am to
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The uniparty is a made-up thing.


Says you and very few. My liberal brother even believes in one, but more in the Ralph Nader tone, that the Repubs are running the show. The trash you're spouting is just another propaganda talking point. Just be sure and set your alarm for 4 AM you don't have to believe in anything. Just run with a catchy phrase or two such as "trust the science". You are merely one of those stuffed animal toys that repeats the noises uttered near it while the switch is on. Stop pretending to educate the board. Your gaslight is running off cow methane.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:25 am to
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Says you and very few. My liberal brother even believes in one, but more in the Ralph Nader tone, that the Repubs are running the show. The trash you're spouting is just another propaganda talking point. Just be sure and set your alarm for 4 AM you don't have to believe in anything. Just run with a catchy phrase or two such as "trust the science". You are merely one of those stuffed animal toys that repeats the noises uttered near it while the switch is on. Stop pretending to educate the board. Your gaslight is running off cow methane.


If your brother is a liberal "liberal" I don't have much faith in what he thinks. If you find yourself agreeing with the masses on things that cross ilse, and are beyond basic survival stuff, like "who is really running the government" or "is it the green people or the unipart". you might want to think why am I agreeing with so many idiots?
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1078 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:34 am to
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Before Trump ever ran for president he was a tremendously terrible person. The guy has always been a scum bag. He is a rich spoiled hateful person.


You are such a dumbass. Here's how much of a hateful person Trump is. Here's him donating to a young girl with a bone disease. What a terrible person!

Trump donates to a girl on Maury Povich show

If Trump is a terrible person, how terrible are you?
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1078 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:41 am to
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If your brother is a liberal "liberal" I don't have much faith in what he thinks. If you find yourself agreeing with the masses on things that cross ilse, and are beyond basic survival stuff, like "who is really running the government" or "is it the green people or the unipart". you might want to think why am I agreeing with so many idiots?


I don't give two shits about what your "faith" and what you want to project on my brother. You are quite frankly full of Sh--. And Ralph Nader would agree. You throw out "idiots" as if you have some tiny iota of credibility. Seriously, you failed miserably in your childish argument. Go away loser, but be sure to cash in on the Media Matter check you were given to post here.
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:41 am to
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I think there's some truth to this.

I think he's been watching (from a very privileged position) for a long time, and realized things were slipping away from the America that allowed him to prosper, and incidentally allowed most of the nation to prosper. He was a behind-the-scenes guy for decades, and I saw the interview from 9/11 where he discussed what needed to be done, and the severe cost of being the man doing it. I think for a long time, he tried, along with others, to control things from behind the curtain; and eventually he decided he could do it better than the guys he bought. And as he hit a certain age, he finally committed to visibly taking the reins, which scared opposing shadow players.

And yeah, I don't think party has much to do with it, and the GOP conveniently was the party he could step into and take over. He wasn't going to take control of a Democrat party under the control of the Clintons and Obama and their people, but the GOP had a vacuum. But had the situation been reversed and the Dems were unsettled, while the GOP was strong and structured, he certainly would have stepped there instead. The key isn't what side you come from, it's getting into the White House, as stated. Either way, his goal was going to be the same thing. And either way, he was going to be ostracized by the media, because he's broken the rule of not stepping out of the shadows. The other shadow players (other billionaires etc) would always circle the wagons vs him, because he went rogue in their opinion.


Thanks. I can't disagree with much of what you said. Your opinion of him stepping in to do better. I disagree with it. ( I should say as his main motivation) But that's your opinion and a plausible one.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 2:44 am
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1078 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:48 am to
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Member since Apr 2024
93 posts


Please tell us more, shill!
Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
146 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:00 am to
Are you not supposed to have an opinion till 1031 posts? When did you start saying that 234 posts in?

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shill!


Quite the opposite I have no gang affiliations and call it how I see it. I don't think ideology can fix a problem. Or take sides and say "Look my side is so good" knowing full well if you took the emotions out if it, no sides are good in the context of most politics. Whoo Hooo Trump is next to godliness. Almost as bad as MY Barak Obama. Sickening sometimes.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 3:07 am
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