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re: If everyone in Europe had a gun and no body had a gun in US which would have more murders

Posted on 4/21/24 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13132 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 12:52 pm to
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People who love guns are the same tinfoil hat folks who think the British will invade again. Same people who are obese and couldn’t fight in a war if drafted tomorrow


I’m not good at arguing, so I’ll just say you’re wrong and go frick yourself.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2402 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:20 pm to
Europe has a population that’s smaller, more homogenous, and highly educated. It wouldn’t make a difference if guns were completely legalized there. People who are highly educated and have high-incomes are statistically less likely to own a firearm. That’s why gun ownership rates in states like MA, CT, and VT are some of the lowest in the nation.

Just goes to show that gun control is nothing more than classism propped up by wealthy people who live in gated-communities.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84885 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:31 pm to
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while in Europe they just seem to be more civil.


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Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1245 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:34 pm to
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People who love guns are the same tinfoil hat folks who think the British will invade again. Same people who are obese and couldn’t fight in a war if drafted tomorrow


Going to be funny when you’re being mugged, you scream for a woman to help you, and she refuses because you’re a beta soy boy.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1245 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:43 pm to
If I’m interpreting your question correctly, my answer would be “why not”?
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted by JEC119
Member since Apr 2024
60 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:19 pm to
In America we have the rare species of the NAPA ( North American Pavement Ape) they do not know how to act in the society they live in.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15807 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:46 pm to
If nobody in the U.S. had a gun, there would still be a lot of murders. People would be stabbed, strangled, poisoned, burned alive, etc. Liberals would demand common sense knife control.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61830 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:47 pm to
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I always hear media say it’s safer in Europe because they have no guns.


It's not guns they have fewer of.



I am trying to read between the lines in this thread but there are none


Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45056 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:52 pm to
The USA. We have a certain 13% that Europe really doesn't have to deal with for the most part.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:55 pm to
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We have a certain 13% that Europe really doesn't have to deal with for the most part.
what percent are the Romani people? They’d cause a lot of trouble with guns. Probably still not as bad as the u.s.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67000 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:55 pm to
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People who love guns are the same tinfoil hat folks who think the British will invade again. Same people who are obese and couldn’t fight in a war if drafted tomorrow


incredible amount of ignorant generalizations in this post.
Posted by JEC119
Member since Apr 2024
60 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:57 pm to
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People who love guns are the same tinfoil hat folks who think the British will invade again. Same people who are obese and couldn’t fight in a war if drafted tomorrow


I have to say I’ve never heard anyone being afraid of the British invading again.

Something tells me you, yourself are obese and mad you can’t afford a gun or don’t know how to use them. You probably break out in a sweat when using a pair of scissors.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
794 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 4:34 pm to
Switzerland has some of the most permissive gun ownership laws in the world, and they are estimated to own about 27 firearms per 100 residents. They have a murder rate of 0.5 per 100,000.

To compare to the US: we own about 120 firearms per 100 residents. Our murder rate is about 6.4 per 100,000.

I'd say guns are super easy to get in the USA, and only "very easy" to get in Switzerland. Despite this, we have about 13 times their murder rate.

But even that's not a fair comparison, because a murder rate of 0.5 is among the lowest 1/3 or so in the world. In other words it's hard to have a major nation with a murder rate any lower than what Switzerland has, just because of the natural tendencies of a sizable group of people to have some bad ones who do bad things. Their murder rate is basically as low as you can have it. It's about the same as what China reports (assuming you can believe China's numbers), and as you'd expect in China it's extremely difficult to legally own a firearm as a private citizen.

So, gun ownership by itself is not the explanation.


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Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 5:33 pm to
There’s a huge correlation between obesity and gun ownership.

You don’t need a gun in Europe. You also don’t need a gun in South Korea, Japan, and a bunch of other countries. It’s just reality.
Posted by thecoconuttiger
Member since Mar 2024
185 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 5:38 pm to
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I’m not good at arguing, so I’ll just say you’re wrong and go frick yourself.


No... Nope... You are doing it wrong ... "Go f@ck yourself" is lame.

The best comeback in a fight is to tell your opponent you slept with his wife.

Ask George Costanza.
Posted by Iowatiger209
Pleasant Hill, IA
Member since May 2021
705 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 6:05 pm to
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People who love guns are the same tinfoil hat folks who think the British will invade again. Same people who are obese and couldn’t fight in a war if drafted tomorrow


I love guns. I don’t wear tinfoil hats. I don’t think the British are invading again. I’m also too old to be drafted so I would not be able to fight, but if asked to I would give it all I had. Most gun lovers I know do not fit your description. So, you pretty much suck.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
7918 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 6:13 pm to
Europe would definitely be safer in peacetime, but they'd just war a lot more in the meantime.
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
1141 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 6:14 pm to
If your aunt had balls, she would be your uncle. Have you told you parents you are ghey?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37576 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 6:18 pm to
The US
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13366 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 6:18 pm to
With all of the "imports" in the last 10 years, I'd say it wouldn't be long before Europe over took us.
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