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re: Summer Plots 2024

Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:41 am to
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:41 am to
I’ll probably just cut it high to help the clover thrive and then spray.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:52 am to
That’s only gonna help, we just try to avoid bringing in a tractor if we can help it. I top seeded last year after spraying, didn’t clip, and varied a bit on my seeding rates. All of them did well, especially the alyceclover, to the extent that I’m covering more area with less seed this year. Your mileage may vary, it was wet as frick before it got dry, so that helped establish everything.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:36 pm to
What tiger said, but I think the germ rate was fine but all of it didn’t germinate at the same time.

Basically bump the seeding rate up and or add another species with it. This will be the first time I have ever planted Alyce clover
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9792 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:13 pm to
I just use a riding lawn mower lol!
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10549 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:15 pm to
My food plots are identical to yours. Very tall wheat with clover and turnip/radish underneath. Been trying to figure out what to do

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What I’m doing is spraying clethodim because it will kill only the wheat and oats, which have gone to seed anyway. I’m hoping this also kills off all grasses and lets the clover dominate. It would help to clip it but at this stage it’s not completely necessary, a month from now it would be. I’ll seed at the same time with cowpeas, alyceclover, and vetch. The cowpeas are cover and I don’t expect them to make it much past sprouting, the other two do well in the heat with vetch being slower to establish. I’ll come back in a month and hit it again with clethodim to control any grass competition.



Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:18 pm to
Again, what Tiger said. If you look close you can see where the sprayer missed a strip of the wheat and oats. I spraid Clethodim late March

Wheat, oats, radish, crimson clover, balansa clover, durana clover & a late red clover. You might see some balansa and durana starting to bloom in the pic but there should be more soon. Then the red should bloom later in the summer.
Posted by Contender01
Member since Dec 2017
248 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:49 am to
do you think its to late to spray clethodim now. South west Miss, but my field looks just like the above from Outdoorreb
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5766 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:17 am to
Not at all too late! Back when we were still spraying chemicals we would use Clethodim all through the summer.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:24 am to
Like the one I posted? Are you referring to the clover blooming? If you have crimson clover I wouldn’t spray it this late if you are wanting the crimson to reseed for this fall.
It will damage that crimson clover and the flowers (which could/probably will reduce the production). If you aren’t worried about that you could spray it. That is why I spray mine as soon as it starts getting into the stem elongation stage and the deer really don’t touch it.Clethodim will ding Crimson Clover for whatever reason.
Some I leave to head out for the wildlife if the clover doesn’t have a good enough stand and I don’t have plans to plant soybeans in it.
When was the wheat/oats planted? If it is headed like some of mine, you might as well let it go and let the seed be eaten/volunteer for the fall.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9792 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:27 am to
Would yall run a quick disc before throwing out plot seed or just throw into current food plot and let it do its thing?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25061 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Would yall run a quick disc before throwing out plot seed or just throw into current food plot and let it do its thing?


It will germinate much better if you do.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5766 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:26 pm to
I'll bump this to pass on a lesson from the weekend...

The vetch seed that seems to be most readily available this year still has the hull with it where normally it's just the tiny seed. That larger seed did NOT work well in my small seed box on my drill. We ended up mixing it with our other seeds in the large seed box to get it planted.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10758 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:50 pm to
It wasn’t dropping?
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:12 pm to
I plan to calibrate my drill tomorrow with it. My original plan was to use the big box and to put the Alyce clover in the small seed box
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5766 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:20 pm to
It was clogging after passing out of the box into the seed cups. They would clog quickly and a couple clogged from the base of the tube all the way up to the seed box.

Putting it in the main seed box was the way to go by far.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10758 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:40 pm to




Progress so far.

Drilled it in about three weeks ago. About to fertilize with 8-24-24 (broadcast)

Does anyone see any bad weeds? I think there are obviously some grasses in there so I’m debating spraying it with Poast.

This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Bowlinm
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Apr 2012
102 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:24 pm to
I know nothing about summer plots.
However, I do concern myself with Turkey populations. I’m in MS and the MDWFP is pushing a No Mow May initiative in order to protect the Hens, nests, and Poults.
Not saying I agree with everything put out there by the state and feds, just raising awareness.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2563 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:08 am to
quote:

However, I do concern myself with Turkey populations. I’m in MS and the MDWFP is pushing a No Mow May initiative in order to protect the Hens, nests, and Poults.


My biggest worry about Regen plots. Turkeys might be nesting in it. I picked varieties to plant last fall and this summer that shouldn’t have interfered with nesting dates, but because of the drought last year I couldn’t plant fall plots until pretty late. I hope I don’t find one while crimping.
I don’t think poults will be in it after they are born and a couple days old because it is so thick and tall, but nests could be an issue.
I usually try to mow roads the last week of April then wait as long as I can. Usually mow again around mid-late June.
Posted by TheRange
Member since Aug 2017
150 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:08 am to
Does anyone know of a place in St. Francisville / Woodville area that rents a roller crimper?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10758 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:00 am to
Unfortunately there are none. 100% of the co-ops, feed stores, and equipment dealers have never even heard of a crimper. Hell, the NRCS in Woodville didn’t know what it was

This year I’m obviously not crimping.

I’m trying to have my guy weld one but in the meantime for fall planting I’m going to get a felled tree and make it as round as possible…add some angle irons and somehow get it attached to a 3 point for the tractor. I saw it on YouTube.

Just go to YouTube and look up DIY Roller Crimper and they have some other ideas.


Found plans online for fabrication

Or you could just fork over 9k and get a goliath
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