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re: 9th Circuit rules Cops can force you to use fingerprint to unlock phone

Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
Ridiculous. They should at least be required to obtain a warrant first.
Posted by OzonaOkapi
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:18 pm to
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They should at least be required to obtain a warrant first.
Also an interesting question, but under the Fourth Amendment. As I recall, the defendant did not raise that issue in this case because it dealt with a parole violation or something of the sort..

IMO, if the state does not obtain such a warrant first, this is probably the better argument. The problem (for a defendant) is that it is not difficult to obtain that warrant, and the data on the phone is not going to be changing n the short time it takes to do so. The state takes a few hours (or days) to get the warrant, then they put your thumb on the pad or flash the camera at your face. Voila, they are in.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 5:22 pm to
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Ridiculous. They should at least be required to obtain a warrant first.

The contents of the phone are still protected by the 4th Amendment, so a warrant would still be required, although it appears that in this case he waived his 4th Amendment rights as a condition of his parole for a prior offense.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 5:26 pm
Posted by OzonaOkapi
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:14 am to
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They should at least be required to obtain a warrant first.
It is a two-step process.

First, is law enforcement entitled to see the contents of your phone? That is a Fourth Amendment issue.

Second, if so, are you required to “assist” them in gaining access TO your phone. That is a Fifth Amendment issue.

Because this appeal relates to a parolee, only issue two was in play in this case.
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