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re: B is not a fit with Z??

Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:21 am to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:21 am to
It’s not rocket science. When one of them is the PG, it means that the other is off ball. Zion is worthless sitting in the corner, and to a certain extent so is BI, or at least it’s not worth $50 million. On top of that, Ingram still reverts to his ISO comfort zone far too often which breaks the flow of the offense and leads to him taking contested 2s instead of open 3s.

Because Zion doesn’t have more skills, BI is the one that needs to change his game the most to fit and he just hasn’t changed enough yet and the rate of change makes it questionable if he ever will. An example of what his game should look like is what CJ has done this year.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:27 am
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:28 am to
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Because Zion doesn’t have more skills, BI is the one that needs to change his game the most to fit


This is the part I take issue with. BI fits the modern game just fine. Zion is just an oddly shaped piece that makes it harder to find things to fit around him. Zion is the one who causes fit problems across the roster.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25871 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:47 am to
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An example of what his game should look like is what CJ has done this year.



OK, then trade CJ and go get someone to take the #2 spot on this team from BI and make him a #3 role player.

BI is not a role player. CJ, for the first time in his career, was a role player this year. He's always been the #2 on the team, even when he's been here b/c Zion or BI were always hurt. This was the first year he was truely not the #2 guy, and that makes it a hell of a lot easier to just shoot 3's and layups.
21% of his shots this year were mid range shots during the 35 game window with a healthy Zion and BI after christmas until BI was hurt on 3/21. In the 12 games without BI, he went nucleur from 3 shooting 11 a game and hitting them at 48%, but his mid range game jumped up to 34% of his shots. Wierd huh. The previous year when he was mainly the #2 all year, 39% of his shots were mid range shots.


CJ's role changed, which is why his shot chart changed. Yes i still give him credit for changing that shot chart, but the #3 role plays a huge role in it.

If you guys want to replace BI with a 3 point shooting role player, like Trey, then CJ is going to take more mid range shots b/c he's going to be the #2 guy again.
CJ is an elite #3 guy to have, and i'd like to keep it that way. If BI isn't the #2 guy we need, then we need another #2 guy, not another #3. It's why I say Lauri or KAT can replace BI b/c they can be the #2 guy b/c they are capable of getting their own shot off whenever they want. CJ can struggle when someone big gets switched onto him, and he reverts to either a step back 3 that gets challenged or a running mid range shot b/c he cant take a jump shot and rise up over defenders like BI can.
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