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B is not a fit with Z??
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:40 pm
Keep seeing this posted. Can someone please explain the lack of fit? Arre teams doubling Z by not guarding B?
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:53 pm to ErikGordan
When we run the PNR with Z and BI it’s pretty much unstoppable, but we never run it.
Aside from that, the issue to me is that BI disappears when Z runs the point and we’re best when Z runs the point
Aside from that, the issue to me is that BI disappears when Z runs the point and we’re best when Z runs the point
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:10 am to ErikGordan
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Arre teams doubling Z by not guarding B?
What? People are saying this because they’re both fairly high usage players who live near the basket. BI plays further back but not further back enough to give Zion space to work. Also both require the ball to be useful and neither are plus defenders. This means that they often trade off scoring which works often but isn’t an optimal setup. Ideally you want your two best players to complement each other more than that.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:18 am to ErikGordan
In simplest form, in the modern NBA you can't build a contender around two stars who don't shoot 3-pointers and aren't great defenders. Math doesn't work...
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:20 am to ErikGordan
Spacing. BI is not a great fit in modern basketball. His favorite shot is a turnaround fadeaway middy. The absolute dumbest shot in basketball period. High risk low reward.
I’ve flip flopped on him because he is a good player, but on Tuesday I saw him pass on a wide open 3 just to dribble into the lane and take a contested 2 I gave up on him. That’s who he is and it isn’t a great fit. We are better with Trey starting next to Z.
I’ve flip flopped on him because he is a good player, but on Tuesday I saw him pass on a wide open 3 just to dribble into the lane and take a contested 2 I gave up on him. That’s who he is and it isn’t a great fit. We are better with Trey starting next to Z.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:57 am to ErikGordan
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:21 am to ErikGordan
It’s not rocket science. When one of them is the PG, it means that the other is off ball. Zion is worthless sitting in the corner, and to a certain extent so is BI, or at least it’s not worth $50 million. On top of that, Ingram still reverts to his ISO comfort zone far too often which breaks the flow of the offense and leads to him taking contested 2s instead of open 3s.
Because Zion doesn’t have more skills, BI is the one that needs to change his game the most to fit and he just hasn’t changed enough yet and the rate of change makes it questionable if he ever will. An example of what his game should look like is what CJ has done this year.
Because Zion doesn’t have more skills, BI is the one that needs to change his game the most to fit and he just hasn’t changed enough yet and the rate of change makes it questionable if he ever will. An example of what his game should look like is what CJ has done this year.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:27 am
Posted on 4/19/24 at 9:31 am to ErikGordan
quote:Zion not a shooter
B is not a fit with Z??
Center position - Not a shooter
Herb - Great efficiency, does not take many 3s
BI - Also does not take many 3s
In today's NBA, you can't compete with the best teams if you only have 1 dude on the floor who is willing to shoot 3s in volume.
Trey is not better than BI. Trey fits this team better than BI.
And all of that is under the context of BI about to get a 2nd max contract.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:36 am to ErikGordan
They both occupy the same area on the court. both are essentially mid-range to post players. it's gets clunk because neither of them really shoot the 3. I know everyone wants Trae young in theory his skillset is what's best for Zion which is why zion and jose work so well. It'll be an interesting offseason
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:14 pm to ErikGordan
I’m not super hype on getting rid of talent that wants to be here. Bring in a coach that will force BI to shoot 3”s and pass ball sooner.
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