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re: Electricity Prices Are Exploding

Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8036 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:57 pm to
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No it doesn’t. You are making that up. There is no such implication in that name.


Sorry, sugar-tits. Try to follow along. “Fossil fuels” has always meant dinosaurs.

Plastics.com

Since they went extinct a long time ago, it implies limited supply, hence the “peak oil” bullshite we’ve heard for decades. You might not be old enough, but we were definitely taught that dinosaurs were the source of oil back in the 70’s.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5147 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:58 pm to
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On Fox Business just a few minutes ago.


Not like them to do alarmist headlines that don't pan out.

How are the trials going for the Al Qaeda terrorists we caught at the Texas border the last 10 years?

Its a headline on Fox every year
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1670 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Charging an EV at home must be expensive as hell.


My wife's minivan is a plug in hybrid and when it comes to cost of charging it, it really didn't make much of a difference on my power bill after purchasing it. That said, I wouldn't trust only having an EV, the mileage during the winter drops off pretty dramatically. And that is why I'll be purchasing a diesel truck in the near future to replace my Ram
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4548 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:30 pm to
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I found another item much higher this weekend. It's the time of year for gardening and potted flower plants are up almost 40% . It's gotta be transportation. Almost all the plants in La. come from Fla and are shipped by big trucks going west on I-10 and I-20. It's either gas prices, lack of drivers, or both. I don't think dirt and seeds are scarce.


Fertilizer costs are through the roof
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73633 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:34 pm to
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But hey let’s get rid of coal plan


And force people to switch to electric cars.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3389 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Charging an EV at home must be expensive as hell.


Not really-

Using a Level 2 Home Charger cost on average around $11.00 to fully charge a Tesla Model 3.

Charging once a week, 270 miles per charge = less than a $50 increase in utility bill.

Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2239 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:53 pm to
Was Texas included in these numbers?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Since they went extinct a long time ago, it implies limited supply, hence the “peak oil” bullshite we’ve heard for decades. You might not be old enough, but we were definitely taught that dinosaurs were the source of oil back in the 70’s.


You weren't taught it was organic matter?

The flaw in the peak oil argument isn't that oil is limitless, it's that the known reserves are unkown and it didn't account for technological advances (i.e. horizontal drilling & hydraulic fracturing).
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3473 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:06 pm to
I’m no environmental activist, but I saw the writing on the wall and signed up with a solar company last year to lock in my rates for the next 20-30 years while the government was helping to subsidize it.

My current plan was up and the rate they offered was less than what I could get per kw from any provider, the economics just made sense. Having a PPA with lower rates may actually be a selling feature if I get rid of this place at some point.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12819 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:08 pm to
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I’m no environmental activist, but I saw the writing on the wall and signed up with a solar company last year to lock in my rates for the next 20-30 years

Which company did you go with?
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while the government was helping to subsidize it.


The investment tax credit isn't going anywhere any time soon.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19952 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:09 pm to
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But hey let’s get rid of coal plants.


They are and gas fired plants too all sacrificed on the alter of "climate change."
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1511 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:13 pm to
Looks like an opportunity to ram through a new Green Initiative that will lower energy prices for everyone!

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19952 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:14 pm to
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All these solar panels they are putting in while shutting down coal plants can't provide the same amount of energy. Eventually they will shut down enough coal that it will start causing rolling blackouts daily no matter the time of year.

Then in 10 years the federal program ends and these panels will become useless and we'll all be screwed.


Hail storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes are very hard on solar farms.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34177 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:17 pm to
You know people know this, right?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131556 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:18 pm to
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My electric bill was the lowest it’s been in more than a year this mont


Was it lower per kilowatt hour or just overall lower?

Because a mild March may be more the reason. Not much demand. What until the 98-100 degree days kick in.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12819 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Hail storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes are very hard on solar farms.

It really depends on the installation quality and materials used. Some bullshite white labeled fixed rack Chinese modules aren't in the same category as Tier 1 modules (especially 5400Pa rated ones) on a good tracker thats properly anchored. I had the misfortune of project managing Hurricane Maria recovery for large residential solar fleet and when we looked back at the data it was pretty cut and dry what the leading contributors to damage were.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112710 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:50 pm to
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Fertilizer costs are through the roof


And that is due to oil and gas prices. Not for transportation but for making fertilizer's chemical components.
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