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re: Iranian attack against Israel has begun

Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:47 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:47 am to
Because it’s a democracy in a land of dictators and theocracies. Because it supports western values from a country in the Middle East’s perspective. Because Iran is the largest financial baker of anti-western militant groups and governments in the world. Because the only people that openly buy Iranian oil are the Chinese and we are at economic war with them.

Are these reason enough to support Israel vs Iran?
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 7:14 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90839 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Iran regime change would actually be a good thing if we could do it right


We never do it right though
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27342 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:45 am to
Are the folks in the ME like the last indigenous people in the world that actually hold any power?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59051 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:47 am to
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Are the folks in the ME like the last indigenous people in the world that actually hold any power?


Which ones do you consider indigenous? Arabs in the Arabian peninsula, I suppose.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20512 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:56 am to
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Are the folks in the ME like the last indigenous people in the world that actually hold any power?


What? Europeans are indigenous. Chinese, Japanese, most of Asia…all indigenous.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2402 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:58 am to
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Weird, my 18 year old son just received a card and a letter acknowledging that he had signed up for selective service.


Nothing is going to happen. Biden just said he’s not going to intervene and will let Israel and Iran fight it out. No point in getting involved with a country that we give billions of dollars worth of arms to and they give us nothing in return. I see this as a win-win.
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7342 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:15 am to
Thread title should read..

"Toddler launches attack against Pitbull "

Iran celebrating getting all their missiles and drones shot down.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20341 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:26 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30698 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:37 am to
They share incredibly valuable middle eastern intel with us.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124535 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:40 am to
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Iran celebrating getting all their missiles and drones shot down.



So...we gave 10 billion to Iran, which they used to buy missiles and drones.

And then shoot them at Israel, who we give BILLIONS to develop and maintain a crazy defense system.

The missiles and drones get shot out the shy, ineffectually, by the Iron Dome.

So...basically we are just out massive amounts of money,
While in debt and the common people are getting kicked by inflation, and nothing changes?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20512 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:44 am to
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So...we gave 10 billion to Iran, which they used to buy missiles and drones. And then shoot them at Israel, who we give BILLIONS to develop and maintain a crazy defense system.


Most of the money we give is for DOD contractor gift cards.

I don’t know the details of Iran by any means. But it would be like us giving gift cards to Iran for Lockheed Martin missile purchases and gift cards to Israel for Northrop Grumman missile defense systems.

I’m absolutely not justifying or saying we should do it, just that it’s not like (or we aren’t supposed to be) giving them actual cash they then go and buy Chinese missiles with.

ETA: so a good bit of that money is coming back directly to the USA DOD contractors and thus jobs and the economy. Again, not justifying it. Just reiterating we aren’t just sending brief cases of money to never be seen again. Usually…
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124535 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:59 am to
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Just reiterating we aren’t just sending brief cases of money to never be seen again.



Obama literally send pallets of cash to Iran.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2514 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:06 am to
Every single administration sends massive amounts of cash to whomever will play ball, wash it out, and send the most back to them and their people.
The Ukraine deal is a massive money laundering scheme
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2160 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:07 am to
Remember to keep holy the Lord’s day
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27342 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Obama literally send pallets of cash to Iran.



We gifted a minting machine to one of those sheiks back in the 70s/80s IIRC
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Slidell
Member since Oct 2018
288 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:37 am to
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Either way, the powerful profit, the middle suffers, and the poor die.



This x 1000’s
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
1841 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:41 am to
This baw has some toned calves. It looks like he never skips leg days. I don’t understand why he is always falling down. Is it possible he is tripping over his own calf muscles?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

The Ukraine deal is a massive money laundering scheme


Explain in detail how it works
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51792 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:47 am to
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Some might say weakness leads to warmongering


They would be right. It's not often that human behavior can be generalized with accuracy, but it does happen every now and then.



Humanity is cyclical like that and it's repeated itself (for those who care enough to actually look) over and over in every known culture throughout the thousands of years of recorded history.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
9254 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:05 am to
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Nothing is going to happen. Biden just said he’s not going to intervene and will let Israel and Iran fight it out. No point in getting involved with a country that we give billions of dollars worth of arms to and they give us nothing in return. I see this as a win-wi


Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to F things up
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