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re: Special counsel urges Supreme Court to reject Trump’s immunity claim

Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:30 pm to
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And then I learned that there is no such thing as "presidential immunity" during the Clinton impeachment.


Wait. You think immunity from criminal prosecution was part of the Clinton impeachment? you dumb idiot.

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That's funny, in elementary school I was taught that no one was above the law.


So your elementary teacher taught you that immunity as a legal concept did not exist in any for or fashion? Either you’re a liar or your teacher was a complete moron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424225 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Many states broke election laws but there was “ no standing” to prosecute. All Trump wanted was to get to the bottom of the laws that were broken.

You're discussing 3 separate things

1. There were civil lawsuits brought by parties with no standing

2. Civil lawsuits wouldn't "prosecute" anyone

3. Trump's governmental investigatory power is via the DOJ, who did their own investigation. Otherwise, he could bring suits (which he did, and lost).
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Not in a way that was going to be reviewable or change the outcome.


Not relevant, and no way you could possibly know that. The FACT is there were illegal votes counted. You stupid moron.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2232 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
Can a sitting President order the military to arrest the SC Justices along with the opposing party’s nominee for President and hold them in Cuba indefinitely while ignoring all current laws?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96551 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:34 pm to
A guy using novel prosecution techniques (and slapped down before by SCOTUS for it) is asking for someone else’s novel argument to be ruled against.


What a piece of shite this guy is.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
20121 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:34 pm to
We’ll find out January 20th, 2025
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99486 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
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I wish I could change my name to "cloud"


Is that because you like to give cover?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21987 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:37 pm to
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There were no legal alternate electors on January 6th, 2021.


Wrong.


Is the problem that you don't understand what we're discussing, or are you gullible enough that you believe the lies you've been fed? Because what I said is correct - not a single State submitted valid, legal alternate electors. Every State submitted only 1 proper slate of electors.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21987 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:38 pm to
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The FACT is there were illegal votes counted.


There were. A few dozen across the country, all from Republicans trying to get Trump elected.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Is the problem that you don't understand what we're discussing, or are you gullible enough that you believe the lies you've been fed? Because what I said is correct - not a single State submitted valid, legal alternate electors. Every State submitted only 1 proper slate of electors.


Alternate electors are not illegal. So when you said there were no “legal alternate electors” that is a legally incorrect statement.

Also…let’s not stop talking about your completely false allegation that a single
person was charged with insurrection.

You have proven time and again that you possess absolutely zero legal acumen. Yet you opine with arrogance from a place of complete ignorance.

You are a caricature.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:43 pm to
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There were. A few dozen across the country, all from Republicans trying to get Trump elected.


Not according to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and the US 3rd Circuit of Appeals. Of course you didn’t know about those rulings. Because you are a useful idiot that is ignorant to basic facts. You moron.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 12:43 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
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The crowd present on J6 was intended to show a gutless Pence that there was massive political support for him


Indeed, they were suggesting supporting Pence by the neck:

Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6784 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:47 pm to
BS....More crap from the rookies that make up law. Any Executive Powers do not end until he legally is out of office. Quit watching the View for your trash.

He was in charge of insuring the Constitution was acted on properly.


Elementary School ......you are full of crap .....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124275 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:51 pm to
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There was no way within existing law for Pence to challenge the particular slates of electors - each state only sent one certified slate
Irrelevant. The premise was Pence would simply leave questionable states envelopes unopened. Neither candidate would then have a majority, and the issue would be passed to the House for determination.

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Additionally, dozens of court cases had shown no underlying fraud worth overturning an entire election.
100% false. Refusal to hear a case does not remotely equate to such a finding.

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Trump wanted Pence to overturn the election and set up a scenario in which Trump, the loser, was declared the winner in violation of our laws and Constitution.
100% false, and stupid. Trump did not want Pence to overturn squat you imbecile. Trump wanted the House to do an investigation as to why multiple states carried out elections in breach of their constitutions, and whether their actions yielded a lawful result.

At no juncture would an election have been overturned, because at no juncture would a final result have been tallied until the House issued its finding.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 12:52 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124275 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Indeed, they were suggesting supporting Pence by the neck:
Because Pence announced in advance his decision to allow a shite election to move forward unchallenged, and uninvestigated.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14987 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:57 pm to
When should we expect a decision from the USSC?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21980 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:59 pm to
Trump’s lawyers urge Supreme Court to uphold Trump’s immunity claim
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Wait. You think immunity from criminal prosecution was part of the Clinton impeachment?

Didn't he try to claim immunity from a harassment charge?

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So your elementary teacher taught you that immunity as a legal concept did not exist in any for or fashion?

I had several elementary school teachers, and no, none of them ever taught anything about presidential immunity.
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Either you’re a liar or your teacher was a complete moron.

OR, they just didn't teach those legal concepts to children 6-11 years old.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124275 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:21 pm to
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When should we expect a decision from the USSC?
Yeah?
Here's some perspective ...

Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
3407 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:30 pm to
And yet you thought the 2016 election was stolen. You concocted the whole Russia, Russia, Russia to try to overturn that election.
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