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re: Slovakia PM: Expect The West To Punish Us For Wanting To Stop The War In Ukraine

Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:59 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20032 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:59 am to
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The "Incorrect" opinions. Basic bitches run the world, which means it has a very limited shelf life for humanity.


Ridiculous response. Are you calling yourself a basic bitch?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:59 am to
There he is again attacking them just like a good little globalist!

Why don't you spend some time knocking the EU and the left instead of the people on the right? Oh... we know why.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:01 am to
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Again, they're not discussing policy.


BS! Sending their men to war or not is policy. Wanting to end the war is policy!

What you meant to say is that they are not in support of your goals.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:02 am to
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Giving old equipment and some money to Ukraine is not "neocon" policy



Yes it is.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:03 am to
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Show where I have supported a mass force on the ground or "nation building" of Ukraine.


My last post shows your support in your own words.


Meddling in elections and sending them weapons and cash is indeed nation building.

Busted again.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:04 am to
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Giving old equipment and some money to Ukraine is not "neocon" policy


Well, there goes any doubt that you've changed for the worse.

Jesus, man..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:05 am to
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My last post shows your support in your own words.


Indeed.

Hes a supporter, just not one of those "fringe" supporters *wink*

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423363 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:06 am to
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Meddling in elections and sending them weapons and cash is indeed nation building.

No it's not
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:09 am to
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Meddling in elections and sending them weapons and cash is indeed nation building.

No it's not


Choosing leadership is.


Which is exactly what we've been doing. Ukraine will be a serf state.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:12 am to
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Indeed.

Hes a supporter, just not one of those "fringe" supporters *wink*



Who always seems to side with the left and globalists in these threads.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82156 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:12 am to
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In his victory speech, Pellegrini called for hostilities in Ukraine to be stopped as soon as possible. “It is an absolute tragedy to support… a conflict that has not brought any results in two years,” while leaving tens of thousands dead, the president-elect said


This is what happens when the entire heckin cabinet of Ukraine (an overwhelmingly Christian nation) is not Christian. They don't care about these lads being slaughtered for no reason.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:18 am to
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No it's not


It is, but you can continue to try to sell that it's not to the PT posters and the overwhelming majority will disagree with you.

We deliberately intervened in election to bring about a change in Ukraine. Then have actively sought to make them a part of NATO. We then are giving them massive amounts of money (not "Some" as you put it) and weapons to aid them in those endeavors.


It is 100% nation building



This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:30 am to
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They're attacking the organizations themselves surrounded by "globalism" rhetoric. This isn't typically simply a policy disagreement.

They're free to disagree, but when they do, playing the "we are going to be punished" card is just pandering of the lowest rung.


Following up on my previous post, I'll repeat that I haven't followed this topic closely and am not well-informed. I also recognize the OP's source is the RT, which can be expected to have a bias. That being said, if Pellegrini said what the last paragraph of the article implies:

quote:

He has indicated that Slovakia would remain aligned with the EU and NATO under his leadership, but the country must also take a more independent position on the global stage.


... then I don't see anything in this thread to validate your characterization:

quote:

They're attacking the organizations themselves surrounded by "globalism" rhetoric. This isn't typically simply a policy disagreement.


The insinuation that Pellegrini will "remain aligned" with the EU (per the RT) suggests you're flat out wrong or at least a bit too far over your skis / presumptuous re: Pellegrini's position. By all means, feel free to bring in additional sources to support how Pellegrini has outright attacked the EU & NATO. But it isn't apparent in anything from the OP.

... I almost hit submit here, but decided to Google, "Slovakia Pellegrini opinion on NATO" before doing so.

First hit:
euronews

quote:

Slovakia's new president Peter Pellegrini has not precisely defined his political position after winning presidential elections on Saturday, according to a political scientist. 

"During his last night speech, he still expressed himself as being committed pro-European, committed pro-NATO, but still said that we need to protect the Slovakian interests" said Petr Just at the Charles University in Prague. 




So, what are you basing your position on (that Pellgrini is attacking the EU & NATO)?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:48 am to
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Who always seems to side with the left and globalists in these threads.



Autists have major problems differentiating cheap propaganda from reality. They usually choose the most popular opinion.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4477 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:57 am to
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So, what are you basing your position on (that Pellgrini is attacking the EU & NATO)?


SFP just doing his/her thing and playing to the schtick that earns much more attention than he/she probably ever gets out there in the real day to day world.

Let ‘em be and don’t sweat their contrarian nonsense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:59 am to
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It is 100% nation building


We wouldnt have spent 100b+ if we didnt have sights on remaking Ukraine.


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